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Message: <blockquote data-quote="yakuba" data-source="post: 6509810" data-attributes="member: 6698582">I think it's more a question of design intent. If, as in 4e, your goal is for each class to default to one particular combat role, then, of course, you will have a set of classes which can be easily classified by its default role. In 5e the design intent for classes is not based on having each class default to a certain role. The 5e designers were agnostic on this point (I'd note at this point that the design goals for the 5ePHB classes were made public and discussed during the design process.) As a result some classes default strongly to a particular 4e role, like the monk and rogue, and others don't default to any particular 4e role like Paladin or the Wizard or the Fighter. Different design goals lead to different results.As to your actual point of 4e roles in 5e. I'd disagree with you. Roles are ways of organizing activity. If you want you can see the 4e roles in the 5e classes, because that's one way of dividing combat compentencies. OTOH, I can see the 4e DMG roles. I can also see all characters divided into those which can act at range and those which can't, and these sets would be disjoint from the 4e role set. The thing is that generally no set of roles is actually the definitive of roles. What would be true is that the 5e classes do not have a specific 4e role that they default to.</blockquote>