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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6511551" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>I think Permerton's last point is very on target.</p><p></p><p>Are we talking about the ability to create different roles within a given class or are we talking about a given character being able to shift roles from situation to situation. Because, like Pemberton, I'm REALLY not seeing the second one unless you're playing a caster with a LOT of known spells. If your caster has mage armor, false life, stoneskin, and shield, he doesn't have a lot of other spells generally. A sorcerer, for example, doesn't get that many spells at each spell level. He's not going to be shifting between roles that easily.</p><p></p><p>Cleric might, although, in AD&D he couldn't simply because there weren't that many offensive cleric spells in AD&D. His casting was pretty much pure leader - heals and buffs.</p><p></p><p>And, let's not forget too, in 5e, there is no such thing as a fighter, cleric, wizard or rogue. That only exists for two levels. At 3rd level you have to choose your specialisation and that will, in a large way, determine you role. A crusader fighter is likely going to be a defender. A Battlemaster will likely be a striker, with a dash of leader. Or, as Imaro points out, you could be a controller, but, after choosing pole arms, feats to support that, and manoeuvres as well, that's what you are. You aren't suddenly going to switch roles once you choose one.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and if you are still confused what a defender does, this is what a defender does:</p><p></p><p>[video=youtube_share;-m6UKS1L0YQ]http://youtu.be/-m6UKS1L0YQ[/video]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6511551, member: 22779"] I think Permerton's last point is very on target. Are we talking about the ability to create different roles within a given class or are we talking about a given character being able to shift roles from situation to situation. Because, like Pemberton, I'm REALLY not seeing the second one unless you're playing a caster with a LOT of known spells. If your caster has mage armor, false life, stoneskin, and shield, he doesn't have a lot of other spells generally. A sorcerer, for example, doesn't get that many spells at each spell level. He's not going to be shifting between roles that easily. Cleric might, although, in AD&D he couldn't simply because there weren't that many offensive cleric spells in AD&D. His casting was pretty much pure leader - heals and buffs. And, let's not forget too, in 5e, there is no such thing as a fighter, cleric, wizard or rogue. That only exists for two levels. At 3rd level you have to choose your specialisation and that will, in a large way, determine you role. A crusader fighter is likely going to be a defender. A Battlemaster will likely be a striker, with a dash of leader. Or, as Imaro points out, you could be a controller, but, after choosing pole arms, feats to support that, and manoeuvres as well, that's what you are. You aren't suddenly going to switch roles once you choose one. Oh, and if you are still confused what a defender does, this is what a defender does: [video=youtube_share;-m6UKS1L0YQ]http://youtu.be/-m6UKS1L0YQ[/video] [/QUOTE]
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