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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6517727" data-attributes="member: 6787650">Most bad guys in the Monstrous Manual have a move of 30. Let's say they have a move of 60 though (mounted on horses)--does it really make a difference? It still makes sense to take those 5 free rounds of shooting if you've got them.Let's go through your conditions:#1 (must be recognized as hostile at long range): Not necessary, as outlined previously. Just send one guy forward to negotiate while covering him from long range.#2 (no inclement weather): Weather is rarely an issue. Rain lowers visibility to 1 mile (per DMG). In order to lower visibility to less than 200 yards you'll need to be in a blizzard or something. Nighttime might be an issue but I'd have to think hard about the right rules for encounter distance at night--for now, no comment. However, daylight is not exactly an uncommon condition outdoors.#3 (speed limit): You're nitpicking. 60' movement is uncommon in the MM (most things have 30', centaurs have 50', a few things have 60', and most of those are flying creatures). Besides, 5 free rounds of fire is still 5 free rounds. And if we're playing horse archers here, I can put my archers on horses too and have them Dash away from the attackers at that same 120' per round, thereby getting infinite rounds of long-range shooting. See: Controlling a Mount, PHB 198.#4 (not indoors): Of course! You don't use outdoor tactics when you're in somebody's living room. Indoors, you rely on things like melee kiting and Web spells.</blockquote>

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