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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 6520975" data-attributes="member: 957">BSI grasp the idea.  You are forcing it onto my circumstance incorrectly and you can't seem to grasp the distinction.It is not, it is only a straw man from your perspective because it replaces the distraction you have offered with my actual point.Again, this is total BSI have responded to emphatic statements from the pro-4E said claiming that the experiences of those who like 5E but don't like 4E are flat out wrong because the experiences are the same.  In other words, they are "point blank" rejecting that other are having a different experience as they claim.I have stated numerous times that I greatly respect the experiences of 4E fans and that I'm willing to accept other terms to better accomodate both sides.  But someone (perhaps not you) who actively rejects doing something is not experiencing THAT THING they are rejecting doing.    (As an aside, it is certainly possible that 4E fans ARE experiencing, but can not bring themselves to admit in a public forum  that there is a legitimate basis for disliking 4E).But that isn't the point.You seem to be hung up on your insertions into argument.  I'm responding to claims of other on your side of the conversation and you can't start taking my replies out of that context and you can't assume that your placing yourself into a response I've made to someone else doesn't carry the implication of the statements from the other person which are are defending.  Again, in summary, call it whatever you want.  There is a major difference between which is significant to perception.  Our inability to mutually agree to a label does not change that.</blockquote>

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