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<blockquote data-quote="SirAntoine" data-source="post: 6530157" data-attributes="member: 6731904"><p>TSR-era D&D did focus on "player protagonism" and "big heroes", but not "a push toward the conflict charged scene". "GM empowerment" was no different. I don't know what you mean by "murderhobos" or "zero to hero". Dungeon-crawls and open-world exploration were both featured. Metaplot railroads now, again, I don't know what you mean.</p><p></p><p>I do not find it to be a subtle nuance that one edition is deviant from orthodox. This is both saying it's not a nuance to me personally, and also that from what I've observed, it has always been a bigger issue for many other people. Even where 2nd edition deviated from 1st, it was a problem. The 4e roles were not like a different coat of paint, thank you.</p><p></p><p>By hit points, I assume you mean the debates people had over martial healing and damage on a miss. Again, these were problems for many people and of course they were deviations from orthodox but that is beside the point. If someone wants to express an opinion about this, it should be put in context before anyone jumps to the conclusion edition warring is taking place. People have had concerns, that's all. The issue of player authorship, again, I don't know what you mean.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SirAntoine, post: 6530157, member: 6731904"] TSR-era D&D did focus on "player protagonism" and "big heroes", but not "a push toward the conflict charged scene". "GM empowerment" was no different. I don't know what you mean by "murderhobos" or "zero to hero". Dungeon-crawls and open-world exploration were both featured. Metaplot railroads now, again, I don't know what you mean. I do not find it to be a subtle nuance that one edition is deviant from orthodox. This is both saying it's not a nuance to me personally, and also that from what I've observed, it has always been a bigger issue for many other people. Even where 2nd edition deviated from 1st, it was a problem. The 4e roles were not like a different coat of paint, thank you. By hit points, I assume you mean the debates people had over martial healing and damage on a miss. Again, these were problems for many people and of course they were deviations from orthodox but that is beside the point. If someone wants to express an opinion about this, it should be put in context before anyone jumps to the conclusion edition warring is taking place. People have had concerns, that's all. The issue of player authorship, again, I don't know what you mean. [/QUOTE]
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