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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 6531319" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>Emphasis Mine... when I see a statement like the above, it really makes me wonder if the poster has read, much less played, any 5e... claiming that all of the fighter abilities are related to melee attacks is just wrong... </p><p></p><p>With the archery style, all of the Champions abilities work with ranged weapons...</p><p>With the arcery style, out of 16 maneuvers for the Battlemaster only 4 are specific to melee weapons... the rest of his abilities work with ranged or melee</p><p>I won't go into the EK since there are tons of spells useful to a lightly armored, ranged fighter</p><p></p><p>As to the description of the fighter, it actually says on pg. 71...</p><p></p><p>"You can make a fighter quickly by following these instructions. First make Strength or Dexterity your highest ability score, depending on whether you want to focus on melee weapons or on archery (or finesse weapons)...</p><p></p><p>It's right there in the description... it is telling a beginner how to build an archer fighter and what type of melee weapons to use with such a character. And of course if you follow this advice your damage is based on Dex not Str.</p><p></p><p>I also disagree with your assertion that a Ranger or Rogue are better suited to being ranged, lightly armoured combatants... the fighter in 5e truly is a master warrior of both ranged and melee combat.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Again, emphasis mine... Say what? The 5e fighter who goes ranged is far and away more effective than a 4e PHB fighter that tries to do the same thing. I mean it's easy enough to see that just by actually reading over the class...</p><p></p><p>EDIT: For a comparison... I couldn't find a single fighter power in the 4e PHB for ranged weapons... did I miss something? If not this seems like 4e restricting the fighter to better fit within the boundaries of it's defined "defender role".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 6531319, member: 48965"] Emphasis Mine... when I see a statement like the above, it really makes me wonder if the poster has read, much less played, any 5e... claiming that all of the fighter abilities are related to melee attacks is just wrong... With the archery style, all of the Champions abilities work with ranged weapons... With the arcery style, out of 16 maneuvers for the Battlemaster only 4 are specific to melee weapons... the rest of his abilities work with ranged or melee I won't go into the EK since there are tons of spells useful to a lightly armored, ranged fighter As to the description of the fighter, it actually says on pg. 71... "You can make a fighter quickly by following these instructions. First make Strength or Dexterity your highest ability score, depending on whether you want to focus on melee weapons or on archery (or finesse weapons)... It's right there in the description... it is telling a beginner how to build an archer fighter and what type of melee weapons to use with such a character. And of course if you follow this advice your damage is based on Dex not Str. I also disagree with your assertion that a Ranger or Rogue are better suited to being ranged, lightly armoured combatants... the fighter in 5e truly is a master warrior of both ranged and melee combat. Again, emphasis mine... Say what? The 5e fighter who goes ranged is far and away more effective than a 4e PHB fighter that tries to do the same thing. I mean it's easy enough to see that just by actually reading over the class... EDIT: For a comparison... I couldn't find a single fighter power in the 4e PHB for ranged weapons... did I miss something? If not this seems like 4e restricting the fighter to better fit within the boundaries of it's defined "defender role". [/QUOTE]
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