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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadras" data-source="post: 6534896" data-attributes="member: 6688277">First time in my life, I didn't actually want to roleplay D&D and I'm a pretty easy player to satisfy. I was bored.First off the two DMs (brothers) had their own characters which they roleplayed.Second they gave each other magical items which on the whole were greater than the items given to rest of the players (all of them being newbies, I was the only experienced roleplayer) and given that magical items were necessary for a character's build (if you werent playing the inherent system) it affected my success in combat (to hit, damage and otherwise). Third the Avenger (DM/player) received a designed reactive power which was insane in damage output. Fourth they gave themselves additional inherent damage-dealing affects when hitting (through the fiction ofcourse) which stacked with everything.Fifth they unhinged a few limitations with regards to gaining powers from other classes in terms of feat costs.There was more, but i have since forgotten. The Avenger did 3-5 times more damage than I did in a single round of combat.  Well minions/large crowds were generally wiped clean with the Swordmage Hybrid AoE powers. Something about he hurt himself and damage dealt was increased. I didnt audit the power, but he had the power whether ligitimately from the books or augmented/designed by the DMs.Spot on. They only had a 3.x background and their playstyles conflicted heavily with mine, as they were more "munckins/power-gamers" whereas I am the complete opposite. I did manage to DM once for them during a DM rotation for a story arc and I think I did get to open their eyes a little to something different. The newbie players certainly enjoyed it. I think the DM brothers suffered from having a closed RPG experience growing up, lack of exposure.</blockquote>

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