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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6537941" data-attributes="member: 67338">agreed...The traditional roles of basic D&D whereDefender (cleric)Striker (Fighter)Artillery/Blaster (Wizard)Non combat specialist (Thief)then the ranger came in and was a fighter/mage/thief hybrid and the bard (1st prestige class) was a druid thief fighter and the Paliden who would eat up a lot of the clerics space...by second edition they had Bard as a type of thief and ranger and paliden as types of fighters...by 4e they really wanted nitch protection and the roles we are argueing over where named, after popular play styles of 3e, that in turn where based on 'turning up the fun' of 2e, witch in turn was based on a evolved version of 1e...</blockquote>