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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 6541510" data-attributes="member: 6790260">So...controlling an NPC's mind, either to remove them from the battle entirely or to add them to your forces, is not "controlling." Okay. That's not really the definition I'd use, and it's not really consistent with 4e (where the Wizard, a Controller, eventually got an entire subclass built around "puppeting" enemies and making them attack their allies...)Literary characters rarely, if ever, correspond nicely to D&D classes. Conan, for example, had to have ungodly stats and, IIRC, a mishmash of class features. Aragorn is a "Ranger," yet he fights with a two-handed sword and is clearly a leader of men (implying high Str and Cha) and, to the best of my knowledge, never once uses a bow nor has an animal companion. Gandalf is a powerful wizard, yet we rarely see him do much magic...other than casting out Saruman's influence from Theoden and bringing blinding light, dawn, etc. While he has a lot of the iconic trappings of a D&D Wizard, he doesn't much have the mechanics to back it up (he almost never uses any spells, wields a magical longsword in combat, fights in melee frequently and comes out unscathed, etc.)Merlin is a bit better, but not much. Both Gandalf and Merlin come from a much more ancient conception of magic, the Wisdom/Great Work type thing, which to modern audiences has been almost wholly absorbed by alchemy and such. Neither of them performed magic from spellbooks, typically, though Merlin at least tended to have a library.</blockquote>

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