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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6541668" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Speaking of unconvinced, I'm not sure about your 5e ranged fighter example. He's giving up AC (particularly since he won't meet strength requirements for heavier armor due to MAD and cannot use a shield), requires several feats (which means you cannot play him in the Basic game), and is still seriously sucking hind <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> compared to a ranger. And, there are a quarter of the Battlemaster options that flat out don't work with ranged weapons. Additionally, he's dealing the least damage of any two handed weapon user. </p><p></p><p>Can you play a ranged fighter in 5e? Sure. I know you can. But, you are certainly going to lag heavily behind the melee fighters in terms of effectiveness in combat. The Protective fighter is much better at working with other PC's, the other fighting styles (other than defense) all deal significantly more damage than you do. Never mind that the ranger is a far, far better ranged combatant than you are. A Hunter ranger is dealing an extra d8 damage on his attacks, so until about 11th level when you gain a third attack, the hunter is almost always out damaging you. Of course, at 11th level, my Hunter has Volley, meaning my bow attacks hit everything within a 10 foot radius of the original target.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6541668, member: 22779"] Speaking of unconvinced, I'm not sure about your 5e ranged fighter example. He's giving up AC (particularly since he won't meet strength requirements for heavier armor due to MAD and cannot use a shield), requires several feats (which means you cannot play him in the Basic game), and is still seriously sucking hind :):):) compared to a ranger. And, there are a quarter of the Battlemaster options that flat out don't work with ranged weapons. Additionally, he's dealing the least damage of any two handed weapon user. Can you play a ranged fighter in 5e? Sure. I know you can. But, you are certainly going to lag heavily behind the melee fighters in terms of effectiveness in combat. The Protective fighter is much better at working with other PC's, the other fighting styles (other than defense) all deal significantly more damage than you do. Never mind that the ranger is a far, far better ranged combatant than you are. A Hunter ranger is dealing an extra d8 damage on his attacks, so until about 11th level when you gain a third attack, the hunter is almost always out damaging you. Of course, at 11th level, my Hunter has Volley, meaning my bow attacks hit everything within a 10 foot radius of the original target. [/QUOTE]
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