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What are the strictest interpretations of a paladin's code?
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<blockquote data-quote="Dross" data-source="post: 3232991" data-attributes="member: 33802"><p>Lets see, and going devil's advocate <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> in some cases <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p>Check with DM, but does enemy = everything that your paly fights such as unitelligent vermin and undead, animals etc or just sentient beings? there could be a case for "preventing harm to my allies against something that does not have the brains to accept a formal challange" afterall. And does natural STR mean no gauntlets of ogre power?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Self defense then? never grapple a foe but try to escape. actually to me this is a more reasonable request then the others, but YMMV.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Traips around the net and get some info on him if you have no access to Faiths and Pantheons to check the dogma section, it may have something for you to consider.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>After a trial where the punishment is death, yes. Note that as a paladin, you do (or should) have some authority in this regard. </p><p></p><p> </p><p>No, at least not for those that are inheritly evil (orcs, demons etc). You should consider that some foes will not be saved despite your best efforts, and if that is the case then a quick painless death is your best option.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Only heal foes that have surrendered. Unconscious foes can be dispached quickly and as painfully as possible if the detect as evil. </p><p></p><p></p><p>A person that has proven that they cannot be trusted should not be trusted to keep their word. Add lying to authorities (and whatever crimes commited since such as attempted murder) to the list of sins and judge appropriately. Dishonourable behaviour often lead to death in ancient Japan.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That is a maybe, check with the DM. For me, i'd say no, IF you used melee, natural or thrown weapons to attack (given your earlier restictions).</p><p></p><p></p><p>No, but only to proven enemies (see below).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Paladins should not be suicidal, they can sacrifice themselves (to let others escape say), but simply staying and dying is a stupid suicidal act IMO. Cutting youself out of a foe isn't unsporting, and may save allies.</p><p></p><p>Other bits:</p><p>Never initiate a fight against someone unless they are a proven enemy. Do not unsheath your weapon unless you KNOW that you will use it on someone. Give the benefit of the doubt (you can still be wary however). Everyone gets a fair trial, but you as a chosen of Torm have authority and the responsibility in unclaimed lands to be judge, jury and if need be executioner. No prisoner will be tortured. If a prisoner willing gives out information of their own free will without being asked then they have earned the right to a lighter sentence or freedom (provided they have not proven that they can not be trusted).</p><p></p><p>As always, check with your DM that this is acceptable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dross, post: 3232991, member: 33802"] Lets see, and going devil's advocate :confused: in some cases :) Check with DM, but does enemy = everything that your paly fights such as unitelligent vermin and undead, animals etc or just sentient beings? there could be a case for "preventing harm to my allies against something that does not have the brains to accept a formal challange" afterall. And does natural STR mean no gauntlets of ogre power? Self defense then? never grapple a foe but try to escape. actually to me this is a more reasonable request then the others, but YMMV. Traips around the net and get some info on him if you have no access to Faiths and Pantheons to check the dogma section, it may have something for you to consider. After a trial where the punishment is death, yes. Note that as a paladin, you do (or should) have some authority in this regard. No, at least not for those that are inheritly evil (orcs, demons etc). You should consider that some foes will not be saved despite your best efforts, and if that is the case then a quick painless death is your best option. Only heal foes that have surrendered. Unconscious foes can be dispached quickly and as painfully as possible if the detect as evil. A person that has proven that they cannot be trusted should not be trusted to keep their word. Add lying to authorities (and whatever crimes commited since such as attempted murder) to the list of sins and judge appropriately. Dishonourable behaviour often lead to death in ancient Japan. That is a maybe, check with the DM. For me, i'd say no, IF you used melee, natural or thrown weapons to attack (given your earlier restictions). No, but only to proven enemies (see below). Paladins should not be suicidal, they can sacrifice themselves (to let others escape say), but simply staying and dying is a stupid suicidal act IMO. Cutting youself out of a foe isn't unsporting, and may save allies. Other bits: Never initiate a fight against someone unless they are a proven enemy. Do not unsheath your weapon unless you KNOW that you will use it on someone. Give the benefit of the doubt (you can still be wary however). Everyone gets a fair trial, but you as a chosen of Torm have authority and the responsibility in unclaimed lands to be judge, jury and if need be executioner. No prisoner will be tortured. If a prisoner willing gives out information of their own free will without being asked then they have earned the right to a lighter sentence or freedom (provided they have not proven that they can not be trusted). As always, check with your DM that this is acceptable. [/QUOTE]
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