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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8304214" data-attributes="member: 5889">So another way to frame this is...you want the players to feel &quot;scared&quot; not &quot;incompetent&quot;.So you focus on defensive penalties rather than offensive ones....let the players remain &quot;badass&quot; but increasing the tension because they steadily lose the ability to defend themselves. Penalties to their saving throws is a good one, as that makes enemy attacks more frightening (similar to enemies have advantage against you, or maybe a simple AC penalty). A reduction in hitpoints is another.... maybe at the highest levels of fatigue they are vulnerable to all damage.... which I think is scarier than half hitpoints because the damage number just look so high.Instead of penalties to speed, make it &quot;unable to disengage or take the dodge action&quot;.... which again adds tension because it removes defensive options for the players.Disadvantage on death saving throwsAll movement provokes OAsEnemies crit on a 19-20Ongoing damage is doubledetcOr if you want to go with the more progressive style some have suggested, could be a simple: &quot;Each level of fatigue is -1 AC and saving throws&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 8304214, member: 5889"] So another way to frame this is...you want the players to feel "scared" not "incompetent". So you focus on defensive penalties rather than offensive ones....let the players remain "badass" but increasing the tension because they steadily lose the ability to defend themselves. Penalties to their saving throws is a good one, as that makes enemy attacks more frightening (similar to enemies have advantage against you, or maybe a simple AC penalty). A reduction in hitpoints is another.... maybe at the highest levels of fatigue they are vulnerable to all damage.... which I think is scarier than half hitpoints because the damage number just look so high. Instead of penalties to speed, make it "unable to disengage or take the dodge action".... which again adds tension because it removes defensive options for the players. Disadvantage on death saving throws All movement provokes OAs Enemies crit on a 19-20 Ongoing damage is doubled etc Or if you want to go with the more progressive style some have suggested, could be a simple: "Each level of fatigue is -1 AC and saving throws" [/QUOTE]

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