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<blockquote data-quote="Gladius Legis" data-source="post: 7061920" data-attributes="member: 68748"><p>I always operate on attacking AC of 13 + your proficiency bonus. Typically works out to the average of the AC you're expected to attack in games.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Which is why you don't smite something that is obviously a mook, or smite when the rest of your party has already clearly taken the monster close to death.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Lv. 6 Paladin with Resilient (CON), CON 14 and CHA 16 = +3 CHA +2 CON +3 proficiency +1 min roll = 9, failing DC 10 only on a roll of 1. So 5% chance to fail:</p><p></p><p>You take 4 attacks in a round. 2 of them hit every round, so 4 hits over 2 rounds. Chance you'll fail the concentration save (DC 10) at least once in those 2 rounds:</p><p></p><p>1-(1-.05)^4 = .185</p><p></p><p>So an 18.5% chance you'll lose concentration at some point in those 2 rounds, even with only failing on a 1. Not a huge chance to do so, but not insignificant.</p><p></p><p>And that was with Resilient (CON). Not all Paladins take that feat. If they don't, the chance of losing concentration within those two rounds jumps up tremendously. Failure chance per hit becomes 20 percent, so:</p><p></p><p>1-(1-.2)^4 = .59</p><p></p><p>59% without Resilient (CON) to lose concentration within those two rounds! That <strong><em>is</em></strong> significant.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Why would I need to grab my necklace? I'm wearing the thing constantly as an amulet, which is all you need to do to make the holy symbol function as a focus. (PHB p. 151: "To use the symbol in this way (spellcasting focus), the caster must hold it in hand, <em><strong>wear it visibly, or</strong></em> bear it on a shield.")</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gladius Legis, post: 7061920, member: 68748"] I always operate on attacking AC of 13 + your proficiency bonus. Typically works out to the average of the AC you're expected to attack in games. Which is why you don't smite something that is obviously a mook, or smite when the rest of your party has already clearly taken the monster close to death. Lv. 6 Paladin with Resilient (CON), CON 14 and CHA 16 = +3 CHA +2 CON +3 proficiency +1 min roll = 9, failing DC 10 only on a roll of 1. So 5% chance to fail: You take 4 attacks in a round. 2 of them hit every round, so 4 hits over 2 rounds. Chance you'll fail the concentration save (DC 10) at least once in those 2 rounds: 1-(1-.05)^4 = .185 So an 18.5% chance you'll lose concentration at some point in those 2 rounds, even with only failing on a 1. Not a huge chance to do so, but not insignificant. And that was with Resilient (CON). Not all Paladins take that feat. If they don't, the chance of losing concentration within those two rounds jumps up tremendously. Failure chance per hit becomes 20 percent, so: 1-(1-.2)^4 = .59 59% without Resilient (CON) to lose concentration within those two rounds! That [B][I]is[/I][/B] significant. Why would I need to grab my necklace? I'm wearing the thing constantly as an amulet, which is all you need to do to make the holy symbol function as a focus. (PHB p. 151: "To use the symbol in this way (spellcasting focus), the caster must hold it in hand, [I][B]wear it visibly, or[/B][/I] bear it on a shield.") [/QUOTE]
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