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<blockquote data-quote="Imaculata" data-source="post: 7843970" data-attributes="member: 6801286"><p>I didn't say they had to be goody two shoes. I said they had to be likable. As in, characters whom you enjoy watching and who can carry the movie. Rogue One's characters were all severely underwritten.</p><p></p><p>And if anyone disagrees, I dare you to describe the character of any of them apart from Jynn Erso.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are describing characters whose morality is in the gray. That is an entirely different matter from whether they are likable. Any character can be made to be likable, regardless of their morality. Heck, Vader is likable, and he's the villain. But then, so is Luke.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It doesn't have to be gritty. It CAN be, but it doesn't have to. As long as the characters are fun, the style of the show or movie doesn't really matter. But for that you need to have a strong screenplay and well written characters.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You can say a lot about The Force Awakens, but Daisy Ridley is charming as hell in that film. She carries that film pretty well, and her character is a thousand times better written than Jynn Erso.</p><p></p><p>Plus, you don't get to say the script of Rogue One as a whole is pretty darn good, after first pointing out in great detail how it is full of holes. Rogue One's biggest problem, apart from underwritten characters, is a lack of tension, set ups and pay off. For the mayority of the film the characters hop from location to location, while the plot spins its wheels in place. And just as the characters are infiltrating the base, and an opportunity for an exciting infiltration arises, the movie just skips over it. Arguably an opportunity for what would have been the most interesting to see: The characters trying to pass them selves off as imperial officers, is wasted. That is just weak writing, and it is all over this film.</p><p></p><p>At its core, Rogue One should have been like a heist. But it seems like its writers didn't have a clue how to write one. Various things are set up, and then have no pay off at all, such as Jynn's necklace and her relationship with her father. There could have been some suspense if both Jynn and the audience were unsure where her father's loyalty lied. But they established that her father was a good guy straight away, thus stripping the film and Jynn of any opportunity for conflict and resolution.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaculata, post: 7843970, member: 6801286"] I didn't say they had to be goody two shoes. I said they had to be likable. As in, characters whom you enjoy watching and who can carry the movie. Rogue One's characters were all severely underwritten. And if anyone disagrees, I dare you to describe the character of any of them apart from Jynn Erso. You are describing characters whose morality is in the gray. That is an entirely different matter from whether they are likable. Any character can be made to be likable, regardless of their morality. Heck, Vader is likable, and he's the villain. But then, so is Luke. It doesn't have to be gritty. It CAN be, but it doesn't have to. As long as the characters are fun, the style of the show or movie doesn't really matter. But for that you need to have a strong screenplay and well written characters. You can say a lot about The Force Awakens, but Daisy Ridley is charming as hell in that film. She carries that film pretty well, and her character is a thousand times better written than Jynn Erso. Plus, you don't get to say the script of Rogue One as a whole is pretty darn good, after first pointing out in great detail how it is full of holes. Rogue One's biggest problem, apart from underwritten characters, is a lack of tension, set ups and pay off. For the mayority of the film the characters hop from location to location, while the plot spins its wheels in place. And just as the characters are infiltrating the base, and an opportunity for an exciting infiltration arises, the movie just skips over it. Arguably an opportunity for what would have been the most interesting to see: The characters trying to pass them selves off as imperial officers, is wasted. That is just weak writing, and it is all over this film. At its core, Rogue One should have been like a heist. But it seems like its writers didn't have a clue how to write one. Various things are set up, and then have no pay off at all, such as Jynn's necklace and her relationship with her father. There could have been some suspense if both Jynn and the audience were unsure where her father's loyalty lied. But they established that her father was a good guy straight away, thus stripping the film and Jynn of any opportunity for conflict and resolution. [/QUOTE]
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