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<blockquote data-quote="oreofox" data-source="post: 7638080" data-attributes="member: 6776240"><p>In a continuation of Lucas Yew's point above, I have one similar. Monster ability DCs. From what I gather, after making many a new monster (conversions of older monsters, really), I have noticed practically every DC listed in the monster's stat block is based off of their Constitution bonus. I check the math against the Con modifier, the base 8 for all DCs, and the proficiency bonus taken from their CR according to the "Making a Monster" portion of the DMG (which checks out when you take their attack bonus minus either Str or Dex to get the same number). HOWEVER, this isn't true for every DC, and not even within the same Monster stat block. Mostly dealing with Escape DCs for a grapple or swallow type move. This particular DC is something like 2-3 points higher, and I don't know how they come up with it.</p><p></p><p>Honestly, I had to figure out how to go about calculating the DCs as that part isn't mentioned in the Making a Monster section (not that I could find, anyway). So at first, I thought if it called for a Dexterity saving throw, you add the monster's Dex modifier to the DC. Looking back, that was rather dumb of me. So everything is based off Con unless they have Innate Spellcasting, in which those DCs are almost always based off Cha.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="oreofox, post: 7638080, member: 6776240"] In a continuation of Lucas Yew's point above, I have one similar. Monster ability DCs. From what I gather, after making many a new monster (conversions of older monsters, really), I have noticed practically every DC listed in the monster's stat block is based off of their Constitution bonus. I check the math against the Con modifier, the base 8 for all DCs, and the proficiency bonus taken from their CR according to the "Making a Monster" portion of the DMG (which checks out when you take their attack bonus minus either Str or Dex to get the same number). HOWEVER, this isn't true for every DC, and not even within the same Monster stat block. Mostly dealing with Escape DCs for a grapple or swallow type move. This particular DC is something like 2-3 points higher, and I don't know how they come up with it. Honestly, I had to figure out how to go about calculating the DCs as that part isn't mentioned in the Making a Monster section (not that I could find, anyway). So at first, I thought if it called for a Dexterity saving throw, you add the monster's Dex modifier to the DC. Looking back, that was rather dumb of me. So everything is based off Con unless they have Innate Spellcasting, in which those DCs are almost always based off Cha. [/QUOTE]
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