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<blockquote data-quote="pming" data-source="post: 8125796" data-attributes="member: 45197"><p>Hiya!</p><p></p><p></p><p>Let me start off with a solid... O_O</p><p></p><p>Now let me add in a bit of... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f635.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="o_O" title="Er... what? o_O" data-smilie="12"data-shortname="o_O" /></p><p></p><p>Right. Now I can reply with something more 'wordy', starting with a question: "Is this an actual thing, or are you just making something up to start a conversation"? I honestly ask because this is just so dang alien to me...a 10-point list of 'rules' in order to control another person. Because lets face it, that's exactly what it is. It's a list saying "This is how you must behave".</p><p></p><p>That said, I can understand someone WANTING to have a list...but it's so far removed from anything resembling a "reasonable expectation of play", in my mind at least, that I find it hard to understand. Some on that list, most I think actually, fall into the "Duh!" category. Like going to the drive through at a fast food point...you don't ball up your money and fast ball it into the window when the cashier opens it. Nobody should have to have a "list of things" a customer has to 'agree to' when they place their order. I mean, really... "No attacking other players"? O_O I'm pretty sure that the ACTUAL LAW covers that already under "Assault/Battery". Same with number 4 and 5. And what's up with #6? Didn't we just have a thread about this?</p><p></p><p>Honestly, I'm not sure what to make of this "list". It's...just so out there, in me personal experience. If someone comes to the table wearing shorts and has a bit of gas...well...deal with it. I'm sure the gassy person is embarrassed enough (well, unless your Z from my group...he kinda prides himself on his flatulence sometimes...much to the olfactory pain of us all...). </p><p></p><p>With #8, I'm at the <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f635.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="o_O" title="Er... what? o_O" data-smilie="12"data-shortname="o_O" /> stage again. Verbal abuse is "ok, but keep it to a minimum"? What does that even mean? Swearing/curse-words, period? Or launching into a tirade of vulgarities and condemnations at a player for making a choice you don't like....totally ok if it's only two or three sentences? This SHOULD be one of those obvious "Duh!" things. Try it at that drive through and see the results when you do that to the cashier who hands you a Medium Coke in stead of a Large One you thought you ordered. Common curtesy...shouldn't need a "rule".</p><p></p><p>Some of the rules, the first and second, for example, ARE reasonable to put out there as some people may just make the assumption that it's ok...I guess? Where I live (Canada), the smoking thing isn't though; here it's illegal to smoke in just about all public locations...so smokers are used to the default being "go outside, away from the entrance and open windows". May be different in other countries I reckon. The drinking, I assume alcohol, is a bit odd. I can under stand "No getting drunk", but again, back to that "Duh!" baseline. You can't get drunk in public...so just equate that to "a bunch of people who are NOT there to get drunk". Drinking, beer or wine in particular, is common enough when at a social function to be as accepted as drinking water, or a latte. Someone bringing a trio of beer's to a 5 hour game...not a problem. Someone bringing an entire case of beer...potential problem.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, the long and short of it is this: "No. I do not have a 'list' for my players to follow. If something comes up that we, as a group, find uncomfortable, we say 'no, please don't' and continue on with the game". Any new player that whipped out a 40oz bottle of vodka, sparks up a blunt, rips off their pants and then starts calling everyone names at the table isn't going to be politely asked to leave....but they WILL be leaving! (If you get my drift!)</p><p></p><p>^_^</p><p></p><p>Paul L. Ming</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pming, post: 8125796, member: 45197"] Hiya! Let me start off with a solid... O_O Now let me add in a bit of... o_O Right. Now I can reply with something more 'wordy', starting with a question: "Is this an actual thing, or are you just making something up to start a conversation"? I honestly ask because this is just so dang alien to me...a 10-point list of 'rules' in order to control another person. Because lets face it, that's exactly what it is. It's a list saying "This is how you must behave". That said, I can understand someone WANTING to have a list...but it's so far removed from anything resembling a "reasonable expectation of play", in my mind at least, that I find it hard to understand. Some on that list, most I think actually, fall into the "Duh!" category. Like going to the drive through at a fast food point...you don't ball up your money and fast ball it into the window when the cashier opens it. Nobody should have to have a "list of things" a customer has to 'agree to' when they place their order. I mean, really... "No attacking other players"? O_O I'm pretty sure that the ACTUAL LAW covers that already under "Assault/Battery". Same with number 4 and 5. And what's up with #6? Didn't we just have a thread about this? Honestly, I'm not sure what to make of this "list". It's...just so out there, in me personal experience. If someone comes to the table wearing shorts and has a bit of gas...well...deal with it. I'm sure the gassy person is embarrassed enough (well, unless your Z from my group...he kinda prides himself on his flatulence sometimes...much to the olfactory pain of us all...). With #8, I'm at the o_O stage again. Verbal abuse is "ok, but keep it to a minimum"? What does that even mean? Swearing/curse-words, period? Or launching into a tirade of vulgarities and condemnations at a player for making a choice you don't like....totally ok if it's only two or three sentences? This SHOULD be one of those obvious "Duh!" things. Try it at that drive through and see the results when you do that to the cashier who hands you a Medium Coke in stead of a Large One you thought you ordered. Common curtesy...shouldn't need a "rule". Some of the rules, the first and second, for example, ARE reasonable to put out there as some people may just make the assumption that it's ok...I guess? Where I live (Canada), the smoking thing isn't though; here it's illegal to smoke in just about all public locations...so smokers are used to the default being "go outside, away from the entrance and open windows". May be different in other countries I reckon. The drinking, I assume alcohol, is a bit odd. I can under stand "No getting drunk", but again, back to that "Duh!" baseline. You can't get drunk in public...so just equate that to "a bunch of people who are NOT there to get drunk". Drinking, beer or wine in particular, is common enough when at a social function to be as accepted as drinking water, or a latte. Someone bringing a trio of beer's to a 5 hour game...not a problem. Someone bringing an entire case of beer...potential problem. Anyway, the long and short of it is this: "No. I do not have a 'list' for my players to follow. If something comes up that we, as a group, find uncomfortable, we say 'no, please don't' and continue on with the game". Any new player that whipped out a 40oz bottle of vodka, sparks up a blunt, rips off their pants and then starts calling everyone names at the table isn't going to be politely asked to leave....but they WILL be leaving! (If you get my drift!) ^_^ Paul L. Ming [/QUOTE]
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