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<blockquote data-quote="Scraht" data-source="post: 3366523" data-attributes="member: 49287"><p>Lots of opinions here, it's nice to see a big passionate thread <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> . I personally, liking very little anime (But there are a few shows I do enjoy, namely Cowboy Bebop), don't see it's influence on the older gamers, or on WOTC (Yet - releasing animed editions of Magic The Gathering killed it for good for me).</p><p></p><p>However, I have definately seen it with the younger gamers, especially when the DM's are into it. You get a group of high school students playing DnD, I would bet 5 bucks that they were all fans of anime, and more than likely it had deep roots in their game. I could see the DM describing their actions in an overly fantastic style (One that the mechanics of DnD actually doesn't support - not even epics).</p><p></p><p>There's a good chance they'll all want to play Cloud Strifes, or Uzumaki Narutos, or Uchiha Sasukes (2 angsty children, and one completely abondoned Gary Sue with almost no lasting psychological damage). I have seen groups at gaming shops doing the anime thing. Usually because of the awesome power that japanese animes and comic book characters can command with little effort.</p><p></p><p>Also, since we're talking about anime, and it's been said it's a "Media", I would like to point out that, the Japanese "Media" and "creativity" are very derivative. Very rarely do they come up with an original concept, usually borrowing extensively from some previous art form, or story, or other "Media." It's just what the japanese do, tryed and true before daring and new. It's been observed by many foreigners to japan.</p><p></p><p>This is partly why people less versed in anime, and japanese culture, generally think it's all alike - because it is. You strip the genres: the magical girls, the group crime fighting dramas (Power rangers, sailor moon), sci-fi, fantasy, silly romances, and what do you have? Generally, the same thing, with only a few key differences. They're in a spaceship fighting the bad guys, or they're in the castle fighting the bad guys, or they're in the city figting the bad guys, etc... I've seen romances, where, they're fighting bad guys! A very hyperbolic arguement, true, but I don't feel like weedling out a better example.</p><p></p><p> The japanese thought process, and culture is one akin to the "Be in the group" and "Don't stand out." Notice in these animes there is usually a cast of group heroes, with usually one or two leaders? Notice the very common notion of sacrifice yourself for the good of the group? How many times in the epic fight have the weaker members given their "Energy" to the stronger leaders to defeat the enemy? Or selflessly fought to weaken the bad guy enough so that other members can take him out.</p><p></p><p>And it was also mentioned that the dialogue is horrible - yes it is by comparison. Keep in mind the Japanese language is very structured, and there isn't 400 different ways to say a single phrase (Like there is in english, which let's us get poetic). And while I *loathe* to admit it, "I will defeat you so you stop picking on my friends!" sounds horribly cliche and retarded to us, they get a big kick out of it there.</p><p></p><p>So I guess... chalk me up for a "Burning my books, abandon my hobby." Also, I was into the whole anime thing in my younger years, so I'm only half talking out my butt <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scraht, post: 3366523, member: 49287"] Lots of opinions here, it's nice to see a big passionate thread :D . I personally, liking very little anime (But there are a few shows I do enjoy, namely Cowboy Bebop), don't see it's influence on the older gamers, or on WOTC (Yet - releasing animed editions of Magic The Gathering killed it for good for me). However, I have definately seen it with the younger gamers, especially when the DM's are into it. You get a group of high school students playing DnD, I would bet 5 bucks that they were all fans of anime, and more than likely it had deep roots in their game. I could see the DM describing their actions in an overly fantastic style (One that the mechanics of DnD actually doesn't support - not even epics). There's a good chance they'll all want to play Cloud Strifes, or Uzumaki Narutos, or Uchiha Sasukes (2 angsty children, and one completely abondoned Gary Sue with almost no lasting psychological damage). I have seen groups at gaming shops doing the anime thing. Usually because of the awesome power that japanese animes and comic book characters can command with little effort. Also, since we're talking about anime, and it's been said it's a "Media", I would like to point out that, the Japanese "Media" and "creativity" are very derivative. Very rarely do they come up with an original concept, usually borrowing extensively from some previous art form, or story, or other "Media." It's just what the japanese do, tryed and true before daring and new. It's been observed by many foreigners to japan. This is partly why people less versed in anime, and japanese culture, generally think it's all alike - because it is. You strip the genres: the magical girls, the group crime fighting dramas (Power rangers, sailor moon), sci-fi, fantasy, silly romances, and what do you have? Generally, the same thing, with only a few key differences. They're in a spaceship fighting the bad guys, or they're in the castle fighting the bad guys, or they're in the city figting the bad guys, etc... I've seen romances, where, they're fighting bad guys! A very hyperbolic arguement, true, but I don't feel like weedling out a better example. The japanese thought process, and culture is one akin to the "Be in the group" and "Don't stand out." Notice in these animes there is usually a cast of group heroes, with usually one or two leaders? Notice the very common notion of sacrifice yourself for the good of the group? How many times in the epic fight have the weaker members given their "Energy" to the stronger leaders to defeat the enemy? Or selflessly fought to weaken the bad guy enough so that other members can take him out. And it was also mentioned that the dialogue is horrible - yes it is by comparison. Keep in mind the Japanese language is very structured, and there isn't 400 different ways to say a single phrase (Like there is in english, which let's us get poetic). And while I *loathe* to admit it, "I will defeat you so you stop picking on my friends!" sounds horribly cliche and retarded to us, they get a big kick out of it there. So I guess... chalk me up for a "Burning my books, abandon my hobby." Also, I was into the whole anime thing in my younger years, so I'm only half talking out my butt :p [/QUOTE]
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