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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BRP2" data-source="post: 3368148" data-attributes="member: 47499">I don't blame you for saying this, however, in this case, I'm actually right. I've seen people in this thread and copies of this thread say outright "I don't like it, and I won't even bother trying it". So, yeah, doing what you said is bad, but I could just quote people to prove my point. The fact people hate it more than sin is kind of enough to prove this too. They speak as if anime raped their kids, and don't bother to mention why.A lot of the points said in this thread have only proved what everyone on said have been saying: "Anime is a media".Media(art) is never really original. The Japanese are about as creative as the Americans. Like the phrase goes: Nothing has been original since Beowulf.Thing about Bleach(and most other shows like Naruto). Bleach is pretty awesome at what it does. It's not really meant to be entirely a dramatic thing. I don't believe it when someone says the plot is bad, it has some pretty awesome twists(and one of the best bad guys ever, just saying who he is). It is a show that focuses on humor, awesome(some border insane) powers, and characters. It is your typical action/superhero comic.About Naruto, the character himself. Once again, it is an action comic. Naruto's character is like Wolverine, in a sense, I'm sure there are better comparisons. Rather than relying on smarts most of the time, he runs on pure emotion and his strength increases based on his emotion. I think someone said that there isn't much strategy in Naruto. I got to disagree, I mean, early on, things become pretty awesome. In the first major story arc, the main characters are separated from their leader(Gandalf-like character) and have to fight someone very much so out of their league. The methods they use to stay alive and actually challenge their opponent was enough to get me hooked(and I wasn't disappointed, crazy stuff like I mentioned is common throughout the series).About the whole angst thing. Yeah, it is there, but not as bad as some people say it is. I mean, Shinji from Eve was pretty horrible, but in other animes, it's kind of understandable. Naming Naruto and Bleach alone, I don't see any of this over-the-top girl drama you've been mentioning. It is usually a guy who is frustrated about how weak he is compared to his opponent(which motivates him to become stronger) or you know, having his whole family murdered by his own family. Nothing worse than what Luke Skywalker gave us, or Frodo from the movies.If the pacing of anime is bad for you, read manga. Trust me, it is just so much better, especially if you don't enjoy the music of shows. Shows need to be 20~ minutes long, while manga doesn't have that problem. In anime, those long moments of nothing happening comes from the fact they need to take a single panel and stretch it out for 5 to 10 seconds.Anyway, before you make judgment on Anime or Manga on a whole, watch/read Death Note. Holy crap, it is good.</blockquote>

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