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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 6272274" data-attributes="member: 22424"><p>Mostly because it's the most recent edition.</p><p></p><p>However, with 4e the existence of the DDI made is easy for WotC to patch the game as they went. This meant that, for a while there at least, there were a batch of new revisions every two weeks. This was particularly painful (to me) because it happened to coincide with the time when I was regularly playing 4e, with one session every two weeks. Because my DM chose to remain current, this meant that my character's powers were seeing at least some revision <em>every time I played him</em>.</p><p></p><p>The other thing that I felt WotC got wrong, starting with the <em>polymorph</em> changes in 3e and continuing for several years in 4e (probably ending when Andy Collins left) was that much of what they did went beyond errata (that is, fixing mistakes) and was instead a matter of revision - things that were perfectly good were replaced with other things (most of which, to be sure, were also perfectly good).</p><p></p><p>(Indeed, at times it felt like they were treating it like software and issuing patches. But whereas I can patch software on my PC fairly easily, it's not so easy to do the same to a physical book.)</p><p></p><p>But... look, honestly, I'm not trying to pick on 4e here. The problems with 3e are well documented, and I'll be the first to admit them. (Indeed, it is my contention that pretty much all of 3e above level 10ish, the multiclassing rules, pretty much all of item creation and purchase, and the whole monster-as-PC thing just don't work.) So, by all means, when I say this was a problem with 4e, feel free to insert "3e" instead.</p><p></p><p>If 5e is moving to a $50 PHB, then that's a fairly hefty above-inflation increase (over 3e, 3.5e, and 4e). For that, I expect a premium product, and one that will retain its value. Obviously, I'm not demanding perfection, since that's impossible (not to mention unreasonable). But it does mean that the list of errata should be small (but comprehensive - no cheating by just ignoring mistakes!), and it also means that they should <em>not</em> revise material post-publication unless it absolutely <em>must</em> be revised.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delericho, post: 6272274, member: 22424"] Mostly because it's the most recent edition. However, with 4e the existence of the DDI made is easy for WotC to patch the game as they went. This meant that, for a while there at least, there were a batch of new revisions every two weeks. This was particularly painful (to me) because it happened to coincide with the time when I was regularly playing 4e, with one session every two weeks. Because my DM chose to remain current, this meant that my character's powers were seeing at least some revision [i]every time I played him[/i]. The other thing that I felt WotC got wrong, starting with the [i]polymorph[/i] changes in 3e and continuing for several years in 4e (probably ending when Andy Collins left) was that much of what they did went beyond errata (that is, fixing mistakes) and was instead a matter of revision - things that were perfectly good were replaced with other things (most of which, to be sure, were also perfectly good). (Indeed, at times it felt like they were treating it like software and issuing patches. But whereas I can patch software on my PC fairly easily, it's not so easy to do the same to a physical book.) But... look, honestly, I'm not trying to pick on 4e here. The problems with 3e are well documented, and I'll be the first to admit them. (Indeed, it is my contention that pretty much all of 3e above level 10ish, the multiclassing rules, pretty much all of item creation and purchase, and the whole monster-as-PC thing just don't work.) So, by all means, when I say this was a problem with 4e, feel free to insert "3e" instead. If 5e is moving to a $50 PHB, then that's a fairly hefty above-inflation increase (over 3e, 3.5e, and 4e). For that, I expect a premium product, and one that will retain its value. Obviously, I'm not demanding perfection, since that's impossible (not to mention unreasonable). But it does mean that the list of errata should be small (but comprehensive - no cheating by just ignoring mistakes!), and it also means that they should [i]not[/i] revise material post-publication unless it absolutely [i]must[/i] be revised. [/QUOTE]
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