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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 2219536" data-attributes="member: 5890">I really don't think that any other prestige class (with the possible exception of some of the exalted classes - which are basically labelled "warning, this may screw up your game") has the extreme limiting qualities that the forsaker does. Also, very few of them have the sneak attack quality that the forsaker has - I mean sure, if you're in a level 13 campaign and someone says "I want this guy who doesn't use magic at all", then the other players have sort of fair warning. But at level 5 or 6 (or 3, when I think is the earliest it can be taken) it's not going to look like that big a deal, and 10 levels later, you'll still be paying for the guy who can't negotiate a simple chasm when to the rest of the party it's just not there at all.I mean - if it actually gave something beneficial then I might not have a problem with it - but it doesn't. It's quite probably worse than the player who insists on taking all his levels in peasant for 'role playing' reasons. At least he just sucks.</blockquote>