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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Storyteller01" data-source="post: 2222340" data-attributes="member: 20931">Right, but as mentioned earlier, this is a matter of how the campaing is run. HOw many stories do you see of mage's choosing to walk/ride/build the bridge rather than waste the spell? How many non-D&D stories do you read where all members have access to magical flight/teleportation/fireballs/etc? Or that such magic is common without special circumstances? I can think of the Darksword triology and the Xanth novels, but that goes back to special circumstances (In both stories, nearly everyone is a born magic user).The class is only disruptive/sucking in a D&D setting where min/maxing is common and characters actually think 'I have x thousands of gold. Let's buy the magic sword/potions/scrolls/ etc'. In a power build with everything in the DMG being available, it is suboptimal. Played for the story perspective, and it's a damn good class to play. Tends to go against the norm.IMC, magic is less than common. Not nesseccarily low magic, but it's expensive. Except for the rare sorcerer, magis requires education and resources. The Forsaker fits in well.To each their own...  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>