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Message: <blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 2081369" data-attributes="member: 1165">There's been five years of specifics <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> I've banned the broken ones from my campaign, so ther's little to gather from there. Of course, I have been unpleasantly surprised to find so-and-so "balanced" PrC turns out to be horribly broken in play.In any event a PrC is not supposed to be more powerful than a base class once you take the pre-reqs into account, and I have yet to see a PrC for a non-multiclassed concept that actually matches the power of the class. Not once. So if the PrC is more powerful than the base class it's already overpowered.I don't know what you mean about "impure cleric" (multiclassed or PrC?) but I think it's mage jealousy. Mages have such terrible defenses (other than the somewhat... hell, the broken invisibility and polymorph spells) that it's very difficult for them to look at another full caster and not see this huge gap. However, I find clerical offensive spells to be weaker (generally direct damage is weaker, as well as save-or-suffer spells). But that's just my experience.What level were you? The complaints about clerics crop up at around 5th-level. IMO the problems with clerics are with spells, not with the class itself. It doesn't help when a cleric PrC is created that's just as good as the cleric and is then better besides, however. PrCs aren't supposed to be more powerful than base classes.This often becomes "shafting so-and-so player". I call it hidden nerfing if it's being used to punish a player like that. I'd rather take out the PrC than do something unfair like that to the players.</blockquote>

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