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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mkill" data-source="post: 5808712" data-attributes="member: 55985">I made my first PF character recently. My 4E group broke down because of players moving away, new DM wants to play PF, why not.Made an elven Sorcerer.I have a bow with +5 to attack and 1d8+5 damage (point blank). Which isn't bad. However, since I'm a sorcerer, I tried to find a way to do anything similarly useful with spells. My alternative is Ray of Frost or Acid Splash. It's at-will (yay) but only does piddly 1d3. Not even 1d3 + Cha, plain 1d3.Wait, I'm a celestial Sorc, so I get this ranged touch attack. Which deals 1d4, and I get 7/day. Bow is still massively better.So that flavor weapon proficiency I get from race is better than all my class features.Ok, a few times per day I can Color Spray, not exactly a manly spell but effective. Magic Missile isn't better than my bow either. 3.5 damage autohit doesn't beat 9.5 with a roll (unless the monster's AC is so high that we'd better run instead anyway).It's kind of disappointing - I wanted a Sorcerer and got an Archer. The game promises me I'll be a powerful caster on day ... but I know the campaign won't go past level 5.Of course, the char is still broken, because I can cast the harmless little cantrip called Daze at will. Dealing adequate damage with a cantrip is OP, but denying the opponent his turn, lowering his defenses and setting him up for Sneak Attack isn't. Right?</blockquote>