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<blockquote data-quote="BASHMAN" data-source="post: 4112499" data-attributes="member: 8277"><p>1. Lower the OFFICIAL price of the books to $30. I don't care if you can get it for that much on discount.com-- the OFFICIAL price of $40 each is ridiculous. Haven't these people heard of soft-covers before? Please make soft cover w/ B&W interior art versions and call them "economy editions" or you could call the $40 hardcovers "fancy editions" your choice. </p><p></p><p>2. Put the Half-Orc, Gnome, Barbarian, Bard, Sorcerer, & Monk in the PH1 or if you buy the "but there's no room" story, MAKE THEM <strong><u><em>FREE</em></u></strong> DOWNLOADS. I certainly don't want to pay $40 <strong>ransom</strong> for these classes & races being held <strong>hostage</strong> in a PH2 a year from now. They may as well call the book "Shameless cashgrab". Paying $15/month to get access to these things that I can only look at from the screen is also not a reasonable alternative. (Note-- I am not against them selling suppliments at all-- I just think that suppliments should be supplimental, not heldback core material. Suppliments should be new stuff). </p><p></p><p>3. Give back the OGL & SRD as they were intended to be. This SRL and "not-a-real-SRD" is not cutting it at all. I don't care about the $5,000 buy-in to publish D&D stuff in year one, but I think having the system be open to M&M, Spycraft, etc is actually a good thing.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: I just wanted to point out that I have NO PROBLEM with the Rules of 4e. I don't LIKE the fluff changes, but those can simply be ignored if you don't like them. My only problems are with the Marketing of 4e-- the 3 things I mentioned above. I am actually not going to buy 4e because of them-- but I will probably play it as my GM looks like he will be buying into it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BASHMAN, post: 4112499, member: 8277"] 1. Lower the OFFICIAL price of the books to $30. I don't care if you can get it for that much on discount.com-- the OFFICIAL price of $40 each is ridiculous. Haven't these people heard of soft-covers before? Please make soft cover w/ B&W interior art versions and call them "economy editions" or you could call the $40 hardcovers "fancy editions" your choice. 2. Put the Half-Orc, Gnome, Barbarian, Bard, Sorcerer, & Monk in the PH1 or if you buy the "but there's no room" story, MAKE THEM [B][U][I]FREE[/I][/U][/B] DOWNLOADS. I certainly don't want to pay $40 [B]ransom[/B] for these classes & races being held [B]hostage[/B] in a PH2 a year from now. They may as well call the book "Shameless cashgrab". Paying $15/month to get access to these things that I can only look at from the screen is also not a reasonable alternative. (Note-- I am not against them selling suppliments at all-- I just think that suppliments should be supplimental, not heldback core material. Suppliments should be new stuff). 3. Give back the OGL & SRD as they were intended to be. This SRL and "not-a-real-SRD" is not cutting it at all. I don't care about the $5,000 buy-in to publish D&D stuff in year one, but I think having the system be open to M&M, Spycraft, etc is actually a good thing. EDIT: I just wanted to point out that I have NO PROBLEM with the Rules of 4e. I don't LIKE the fluff changes, but those can simply be ignored if you don't like them. My only problems are with the Marketing of 4e-- the 3 things I mentioned above. I am actually not going to buy 4e because of them-- but I will probably play it as my GM looks like he will be buying into it. [/QUOTE]
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