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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Silvercat Moonpaw" data-source="post: 4112589" data-attributes="member: 46652">I'm not sure if I have much to contribute here: I gave up D&D a while ago because I found it to be full of traps in character creation, too caught up in mechanical minutia, and too tactical.  4E has really great flavor, but it still looks like there are too many mechanics and it has actually become more focused on tactics.  This doesn't place me in the anti-4E camp, as my current dislike of D&D means I approach the entire issue from a non-extremist outside viewpoint, but I'm probably not wait-and-see because the stuff that would have swayed me has already been set against me.</blockquote>