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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mercule" data-source="post: 3970127" data-attributes="member: 5100">I'd go for that.  On the other hand, I've never really had a problem getting a DM to tweak the package.I believe "dipping" was one of the things they looked at, specifically, with the revised multi-classing.Current indications are for a unified progression for BAB, saves, etc. with a class bonus of some sort.I wouldn't be at all surprised.  The warblade (aka: 4E fighter prototype) had 4 skills.  The skill system is changing a bit, but I'd put money on the "less skilled" classes no longer being effectively "unskilled".I'd prefer not to go generic classes, but more customization would be great.  There's no reason the fighter shouldn't make a serviceable swashbuckler.  Actually, it sounds like the rogue or ranger will fill that niche, which might work okay, but I'm not to sure.I've inferred (read: pulled out of my sphincter) from the tidbits on martial powers that there are groupings of weapons in 4E.  Whether that applies to proficiency, I can't say, but we can hope.Stated as core for 4E.Some skills are getting rolled together, so you might see some expanded uses there.  On the other hand, it's also been said that some skill abilities (tumble to avoid AoO) have been made into feats, so you might see a bleed of skill tricks into feats.Martial powers.It sounds like clerical magic will actually work differently than wizard magic.  Divine feats may end up being represented by cleric powers.  That will also allow a better breakdown of things that should be at will, per encounter, per day, and ritual.I suspect that the will/encounter/daily/ritual breakdown will eliminate most of the need for such a feat.I'm pretty sure something like this is in.Well, they won't be from BoIM, but fighters (and others) will have a lengthy list of martial maneuvers.  That's been one of the big talking points on 4E.  We'll just have to wait and see if 4E does it better, worse, or on par.  I assume Mr. Mearls has learned something between then and now.I doubt we'll see penalties, but I'm almost positive triple hp at first level has been confirmed.  Also, I seem to remember a small blurb on revised dying rules (no details).Done.  It was emphasized, bolded, and shouted from a mountaintop.</blockquote>

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