Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Rocket your D&D 5E and Level Up: Advanced 5E games into space! Alpha Star Magazine Is Launching... Right Now!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
What changes from 3.0 to 3.5 should *not* have been made?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Pants" data-source="post: 1782851" data-attributes="member: 8849"><p>How does a horse that is taking up a space 5ft. wide and 10 ft. long effectively move in combat when the game has no rule for facing? The horse clearly has both a front, a back, and two sides in such a scenario.</p><p></p><p>Also, remember that the 10 ft. square represents the amount of the space the horse manuevers in, not the amount of space it takes up. It's simply an abstraction for an already abstract combat system. If you didn't complain about the no facing in 3.0 (and the creatures that clearly HAD facing) then you can't really complain about this either.</p><p></p><p>Both are abstractions and both are pretty far from perfect.</p><p></p><p>Edit: Forgot to list my problems</p><p></p><p>My actual problems with 3.5:</p><p>- Breaking up spells and thus making them less versatile (emotion and symbol are examples)</p><p>- Simplifying of cover (this wouldn't be a bad thing if the old cover system were implemented as a variant rule somewhere)</p><p>- Changing some spells (darkness comes to mind, harm is now somewhat ambiguous in its wording, shapechange made into a freaking overpowered spell!, sleep kind of sucks now)</p><p>- Not changing some spells (Mord's Disjunction and Astral Projection SHOULD have been changed, but weren't)</p><p>- Removing some Demon/Devil SLA's</p><p>- Not putting Yugoloths in the 3.5 MM</p><p>- Not enough new art in the books</p><p></p><p>Most of these aren't really big problems, but they're kind of annoying. I'll still play 3.5 over 3.0 since a lot of the changes I agree with.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pants, post: 1782851, member: 8849"] How does a horse that is taking up a space 5ft. wide and 10 ft. long effectively move in combat when the game has no rule for facing? The horse clearly has both a front, a back, and two sides in such a scenario. Also, remember that the 10 ft. square represents the amount of the space the horse manuevers in, not the amount of space it takes up. It's simply an abstraction for an already abstract combat system. If you didn't complain about the no facing in 3.0 (and the creatures that clearly HAD facing) then you can't really complain about this either. Both are abstractions and both are pretty far from perfect. Edit: Forgot to list my problems My actual problems with 3.5: - Breaking up spells and thus making them less versatile (emotion and symbol are examples) - Simplifying of cover (this wouldn't be a bad thing if the old cover system were implemented as a variant rule somewhere) - Changing some spells (darkness comes to mind, harm is now somewhat ambiguous in its wording, shapechange made into a freaking overpowered spell!, sleep kind of sucks now) - Not changing some spells (Mord's Disjunction and Astral Projection SHOULD have been changed, but weren't) - Removing some Demon/Devil SLA's - Not putting Yugoloths in the 3.5 MM - Not enough new art in the books Most of these aren't really big problems, but they're kind of annoying. I'll still play 3.5 over 3.0 since a lot of the changes I agree with. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
What changes from 3.0 to 3.5 should *not* have been made?
Top
