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<blockquote data-quote="VirgilCaine" data-source="post: 1784166" data-attributes="member: 17083">Of course, I have no actual knowledge of the effect, having never played a game that used it. I'm one of those Non-Gaming gamers--I'd like to, but I don't have time.If I was going to change it from 3.0 to 3.5, I would have given it, say 1d6 subdual damage per round, a Fort save or take 1 Con damage at the end of the duration, and a hefty material component of 250 gp, maybe of a specific substance. THAT would be fixing it. Giving additional costs to the spell, NOT changing the whole effect of the spell. If it 3.0 haste was THAT HORRIBLY OVERPOWERED it would have been houseruled somewhat similar to the above on a massive, universal scale. AFAIK this wasn't done. Was it?Was it really so bad? Really? Because I don't see cause for changing the whole effect. I can see how it might be a problem and merit my treatment. And all those people who said they would still take Haste, even if it was a 9th level spell are dense. Take Time Stop instead. Time Stop lets you examine the ambush (which high-level attacks are mostly) and decide what to do--attack retreat, etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="VirgilCaine, post: 1784166, member: 17083"] Of course, I have no actual knowledge of the effect, having never played a game that used it. I'm one of those Non-Gaming gamers--I'd like to, but I don't have time. If I was going to change it from 3.0 to 3.5, I would have given it, say 1d6 subdual damage per round, a Fort save or take 1 Con damage at the end of the duration, and a hefty material component of 250 gp, maybe of a specific substance. THAT would be fixing it. Giving additional costs to the spell, NOT changing the whole effect of the spell. If it 3.0 haste was THAT HORRIBLY OVERPOWERED it would have been houseruled somewhat similar to the above on a massive, universal scale. AFAIK this wasn't done. Was it? Was it [i]really[/i] so bad? [i]Really?[/i] Because I don't see cause for changing the whole effect. I can see how it might be a [i]problem[/i] and merit my treatment. And all those people who said they would still take Haste, even if it was a 9th level spell are dense. Take Time Stop instead. Time Stop lets you examine the ambush (which high-level attacks are mostly) and decide what to do--attack retreat, etc. [/QUOTE]

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