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<blockquote data-quote="thormagni" data-source="post: 2673079" data-attributes="member: 13637">Yeah. Sad but true. Guardians of Order came out with BESM D20 in 2003 before 3.5 came out. In 2004, in a flurry of activity they put out a revised edition. Except they sent the wrong manuscript to the printers or some such and actually printed a book that mixes 3.0 compatible rules with 3.5 rules and about 30 pages added of &quot;creating a mecha&quot; rules. Once they realized they made the mistake, they offered a revised, revised version you could get by trading in the unrevised, revised through their Web site. So, they have...* A Deluxe Limited Edition BESM D20 (leather cover, full color) compatible with 3.0* A BESM D20 non-deluxe edition compatible with 3.0 (black and white art, normal cover, the one I'm giving to you)* A revised for 3.5 version which really isn't completely revised. (black and white art, normal cover)* A revised for 3.5 version which really is revised. (black and white art, normal cover) I don't own this one.* A Stingy Gamer's Edition which really is revised. (very little art, small type, paperback, super cheap) I don't own the SGE either.BESM D20 combines anime-style classes such as Gun Bunny, Mecha Pilot and Magical Girl, with the power and ability system from Silver Age Sentinels. But the most interesting part for me is that they deconstructed the standard D&amp;D classes using their own ability and power system, to come up with point-balanced versions of those standard classes. Essentially, every level of advancement is about 10 character points worth of power. So all 20th level characters are about 200 character points. It's interesting in a purely &quot;break the system down and see how it works&quot; sort of way. Really, BESM D20 is my winner in the &quot;how far can you tweak D20 until it doesn't resemble D&amp;D any more&quot; contest. Picture Tri-Stat BESM as peanut butter and D&amp;D D20 as a chocolate bar and the two are running into each other. Except instead of a Reese's cup, you end up with a sentient peanut butter golem covered in chocolate armor lumbering across the landscape.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="thormagni, post: 2673079, member: 13637"] Yeah. Sad but true. Guardians of Order came out with BESM D20 in 2003 before 3.5 came out. In 2004, in a flurry of activity they put out a revised edition. Except they sent the wrong manuscript to the printers or some such and actually printed a book that mixes 3.0 compatible rules with 3.5 rules and about 30 pages added of "creating a mecha" rules. Once they realized they made the mistake, they offered a revised, revised version you could get by trading in the unrevised, revised through their Web site. So, they have... * A Deluxe Limited Edition BESM D20 (leather cover, full color) compatible with 3.0 * A BESM D20 non-deluxe edition compatible with 3.0 (black and white art, normal cover, the one I'm giving to you) * A revised for 3.5 version which really isn't completely revised. (black and white art, normal cover) * A revised for 3.5 version which really is revised. (black and white art, normal cover) I don't own this one. * A Stingy Gamer's Edition which really is revised. (very little art, small type, paperback, super cheap) I don't own the SGE either. BESM D20 combines anime-style classes such as Gun Bunny, Mecha Pilot and Magical Girl, with the power and ability system from Silver Age Sentinels. But the most interesting part for me is that they deconstructed the standard D&D classes using their own ability and power system, to come up with point-balanced versions of those standard classes. Essentially, every level of advancement is about 10 character points worth of power. So all 20th level characters are about 200 character points. It's interesting in a purely "break the system down and see how it works" sort of way. Really, BESM D20 is my winner in the "how far can you tweak D20 until it doesn't resemble D&D any more" contest. Picture Tri-Stat BESM as peanut butter and D&D D20 as a chocolate bar and the two are running into each other. Except instead of a Reese's cup, you end up with a sentient peanut butter golem covered in chocolate armor lumbering across the landscape. [/QUOTE]

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