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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 9256968" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>I mean I disagree with this, though, even though I agree that a lot of stuff was made spells that shouldn’t be. </p><p></p><p>Like don’t make gnomes talking to critters a spell, that’s needlessly limited and doesn’t fit the fantasy of it being natural. </p><p></p><p>But like, it’s not some objective truth that spells are a bad vehicle for class features. The warlock pacts as spells worked fine. It wasn’t needed, but it wasn’t remotely problematic. You make a pact and you get to summon a thing. That being a spell is…fine. </p><p></p><p>Sure you would. Both spells work fine for an otherwise melee ranger. </p><p></p><p>I’m on the fence with this. There is ranger stuff that shouldn’t be spells, but giving them commune with nature for free makes sense. It would be silly to replicate its effects just for the purpose of not technically having a spell there. </p><p></p><p>In cases where the actual thing happening in the game world is going to be the same, just use the spell. </p><p></p><p>That a few people can’t see a spell on a class feature and not invision thier character suddenly being a wizard, “because spell”, no matter how differently from proper Spellcasting it is, just isn’t a thing they need to worry about IMO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 9256968, member: 6704184"] I mean I disagree with this, though, even though I agree that a lot of stuff was made spells that shouldn’t be. Like don’t make gnomes talking to critters a spell, that’s needlessly limited and doesn’t fit the fantasy of it being natural. But like, it’s not some objective truth that spells are a bad vehicle for class features. The warlock pacts as spells worked fine. It wasn’t needed, but it wasn’t remotely problematic. You make a pact and you get to summon a thing. That being a spell is…fine. Sure you would. Both spells work fine for an otherwise melee ranger. I’m on the fence with this. There is ranger stuff that shouldn’t be spells, but giving them commune with nature for free makes sense. It would be silly to replicate its effects just for the purpose of not technically having a spell there. In cases where the actual thing happening in the game world is going to be the same, just use the spell. That a few people can’t see a spell on a class feature and not invision thier character suddenly being a wizard, “because spell”, no matter how differently from proper Spellcasting it is, just isn’t a thing they need to worry about IMO. [/QUOTE]
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