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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thunderfoot" data-source="post: 3418524" data-attributes="member: 34175">I would say its a wash between cleric and wizard actually, they both have changed some from 1E - but neither as much as the other classes.As for the power of clerics versus the other classes, give me a party of clerics, just clerics, and there is NOTHING they can't do, take turns buffing, healing and fighting..when one goes down, another pulls him right back up and another heals him to near full, absolutely freaking relentless.  Yes they can't fight as well as a fighter and lack major damage dealing area of effect spells (generalization) and their base chance to find anything other than their own weapons and armor are almost non existant, BUT once they buff it all bets off Suzy, and of course a party of clerics against undead and, later in life, outsiders...forget about it, no one can touch them.</blockquote>