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Message: <blockquote data-quote="eamon" data-source="post: 5089036" data-attributes="member: 51942">All classes have a bit of this in them - that's kind of the point.  They're in-game realized versions of some ideal class, after all...No, that's the opposite of what I'm suggesting.  I emphatically don't want ever less distinct mixtures, but rather want more distinctive classes. The defender-striker-controller-leader space isn't the only degree to which classes can differ.  But as is, most classes are built to be defined along those axes - and the rest seems incidental.That means that there's little reason for new classes and little to be gained by using them.  Sometimes they have a few distinct new tricks, so for char-op purposes they might be interesting, or have a few specifically attractive powers or what not, but in terms of playstyle, they don't represent anything particularly new.  This might not be a problem, but that's the topic for another thread.  In this thread, the question was asked that if you want more classes, what would they be.  There's nothing wrong with the PHB class design approach - but we already have those classes and we're a few years on with a design team that presumably has a better feel for the system.  So, I'd like to see a balanced class that doesn't feel like it was built to be a defender or controller as primary concern, but feels like it was built to be itself and whereby the role(s) are perhaps tweaked on as an afterthought; or where, as you suggest, the role may vary from time to time.</blockquote>

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