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<blockquote data-quote="Turtlejay" data-source="post: 5093471" data-attributes="member: 70267">All due respect, but right off the bat you are pretty dismissive of other people's ideas.&nbsp; You discount out of hand a whole bunch of classes, simply because you can't see how their mechanics would work.&nbsp;Well, I think we will see plenty before 4e runs it's course, and much of it will probably be new things that you may not expect to be coming.&nbsp;WRT your claims about artificers, wizards, and druids just needing certain sets of powers to fill in different roles. . .sure.&nbsp; If you gave the wizard an at-will that did 5d6 damage to every enemy in sight, he becomes a striker too.&nbsp; What people want is a new class that functions differently.&nbsp; Your dismissal of that is kind of short-sighted.&nbsp;All that being said, this is all just a fun thought excercise anyways.&nbsp; I don't think anyone here is seriously looking for a fan-made or flavor-shifted Necromancer (though the Shaman hack was a cool idea), or anything else, really.&nbsp; Just having a discussion.&nbsp;Jay</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Turtlejay, post: 5093471, member: 70267"] All due respect, but right off the bat you are pretty dismissive of other people's ideas. You discount out of hand a whole bunch of classes, simply because you can't see how their mechanics would work. Well, I think we will see plenty before 4e runs it's course, and much of it will probably be new things that you may not expect to be coming. WRT your claims about artificers, wizards, and druids just needing certain sets of powers to fill in different roles. . .sure. If you gave the wizard an at-will that did 5d6 damage to every enemy in sight, he becomes a striker too. What people want is a new class that functions differently. Your dismissal of that is kind of short-sighted. All that being said, this is all just a fun thought excercise anyways. I don't think anyone here is seriously looking for a fan-made or flavor-shifted Necromancer (though the Shaman hack was a cool idea), or anything else, really. Just having a discussion. Jay [/QUOTE]

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