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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Eric V" data-source="post: 6719734" data-attributes="member: 6779717">My fav toon from all the 4e games I played was an Avenger.I see [MENTION=1288]Mouseferatu[/MENTION]'s point that the Vengenace paladin is clearly meant to be along those lines.  But as is, suffers from MAD way too much: Paladins need STR and CHA; an Avenger would need STR, DEX, and CHA (with CON being more important as well, since AC would be lower).I'm not sure a full class is needed here, just some tweaking.In another thread a while ago, some changes were proposed.  Monk ac ability*.  Switch spellcasting ability from CHA to WIS. Allow the use of WIS for one weapon related to the god (so they can still use greatsword effectively).That said, they still have a bunch of paladin abilities that may not suit well, such as Lay on Hands.  Spells, I'm not worried about, since I figure they just become smites.It's a bit of work, but much of it is done by being a subclass, IMO.*= This still doesn't match the normal Paladin's AC, btw.  I'd let them have a free use of Shield of Faith, or say that spell is always active until they fall unconscious, then need to use a bonus action to reactivate it.</blockquote>