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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HeinorNY" data-source="post: 4041724" data-attributes="member: 16178">Leader buffs and heals the party, the controller damages and debuffs the enemies. Would it be right to consider the Controller to be somehow the opposite of the Leader? If that is at least partially correct, I could think of a martial controller as a class that damages and debuffs the enemies the same way the Warlord heals and buffs the party. If the Warlord uses his strength of personality and gift for leadership to make his allies fight better, the Martial Controller could use the same "tools" to make enemies fight worse.The first concept that comes to my mind is the Barbarian character from Diablo 2. He has a "talent tree" that gives him "Warcries", that in D&D terms are clearly powers from the Leader and Controller roles.The "leadership" warcries increase, in D&D terms, the allies' AC, HP, Power lvls.The "controllership" warcries decrease enemies' AC and damage output, damage and stun enemies, frightens monsters or taunt them.Those are pretty straightfoward, but they are a nice startpoint to think about other debuffing warcries for a martial controller class. If the Warlord has a power the let his allies make a free ranged attack, the martial controller could have a warcry that forced opponents to halt their attacks against one of his allies.Maybe these are not enough for a whole class, or maybe we need to stretch the believability too much, but they show it's not impossible to create a martial controller.My main point is that the warlord is a martial character, but he doesn't always use  his "martial prowess" to buff and heal his allies, so a martial controller also wouldn't need to draw all of his "controlling powers" specifically from his martial power source.Thoughts?</blockquote>

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