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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Valdrax" data-source="post: 4043853" data-attributes="member: 56320">I second this post.Please quit trying to bait people into violating their NDA.  It's just not nice.   <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> Oh, sure there will be a lot of overlap for magical controllers.  Most will be able to do direct damage; most will be able to muck with the terrain; most will be able to directly affect the minds and bodies of enemies; most will be able to rearrange enemies on the battlefield.What will matter will be the emphasis of the classes.  We've already seen a little of this where Wizard enchantment powers are getting nerfed to give the Psion some room to be unique.An Arcane Controller focuses primarily on evocation effects.A Psionic Controller focuses primarily on enchantment effects.A Shadow Controller focuses primarily on illusions, enervation, and control of visibility.A Primal Controller focuses on terrain manipulation and transmutations.A Divine Controller gets hard thanks to Shadow and (the presumptive) Primal already eating up good niches for it.  A summoner, a master of fear and awe, etc. all run into the same problem as the Martial Controller -- a gimmicky niche with little room for carving out uniqueness.The lack of a non-magical controller does not mean the system or the role is broken.  It just means there are certain fights which may be a little more challenging (primarily ones with swarms of mooks), but doubling up on other roles and focusing a little on the options where classes get to "minor" in another role will do just fine.  I doubt that a PC group with 2 Defenders, 2 Strikers, and a Leader will be incapable of handling challenges without a Controller.</blockquote>

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