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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 4044917" data-attributes="member: 2067">Not to really pick on Cadfan, but to call this out more in general:That is not the controller's mission. As far as I know, the only source for what a controller actually does, other than rampant speculation, is Races & Classes.The controller's mission, as presented in Race & Classes, is to deal damage (not Striker-level damgae, but damage) to lots of enemies at once. The typical controller, the Wizard, does this, I'm guessing, with spells like Fireball and Magic Missile and various other multi-target spells, probably mostly at range (though things like Burning Hands or various self-centered burst effects may be more close-range). I haven't seen anything yet that suggests the controllers, to fill that role in the party, need to do anything other than this, or anything more than this. They are anti-minion machines, anti-army devices, they control the battlefield by making it, in general, a bad idea to form a close group of people that they can easily blast out with a single spell. Everything else is icing. So any concept that can deal damge to several creatures at once is a valid Controller concept, as far as we know, be it through fireballs, through arrows, through throwing axes (and goblins), through tricks with chain weapons, through a quick movement and multiple attacks....any of these fill the role of the controller.So some defenses:The stun doesn't matter. What matters is how many targets he can hit with that flurry. If it's "more than most other classes," and if that's something the class can do regularly, it fills the Controller role. A flurry of blows is controller territory because it can hit many enemies, and if the class has a steady, dependable flurry of blows, it can fill the controller role.The range doesn't figure into it much. It only does in figuring out basically how he manages to hit that many creatures. If he's got a large radius with his spiked chain, though, wide enough to catch several critters in it's spinning vortex of doom, he can fill the controller role.</blockquote>

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