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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 5115285" data-attributes="member: 710">Aside from the possibility of &quot;the fight is already decided, we are just negotiating the number of healing surges&quot;, grind also happens when not much happens each round, or only the same things happen. This is often the case in the former case, but it doesn't have to.I think a &quot;grindy&quot; fight for example can be against a Black Dragon - he always retreats himself back into that sphere of darkness, and nobody has a real chance to hit. That's pretty boring most of the time. Only if he manages to bring your hit points low it might get exciting again, but even that can become grindy, if you just don't seem to put a dent into your enemies.I think fights against many monsters often do not become that &quot;grindy&quot; because you have many &quot;mini-events&quot; like &quot;enemy bloodied&quot; and &quot;enemy killed&quot; and also events like &quot;oh my god, they are all hitting the wizard this round, do something!&quot;.If there is no terrain to exploit, maneuvering makes no difference, then longer combats get &quot;grindy&quot;. It's important for a combat to allow for making meaningful decisions. If you are down to your at-will powers and everyone has every enemy flanked, there isn't much decision-making necessary, or it at least doesn't have a meaningful impact.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 5115285, member: 710"] Aside from the possibility of "the fight is already decided, we are just negotiating the number of healing surges", grind also happens when not much happens each round, or only the same things happen. This is often the case in the former case, but it doesn't have to. I think a "grindy" fight for example can be against a Black Dragon - he always retreats himself back into that sphere of darkness, and nobody has a real chance to hit. That's pretty boring most of the time. Only if he manages to bring your hit points low it might get exciting again, but even that can become grindy, if you just don't seem to put a dent into your enemies. I think fights against many monsters often do not become that "grindy" because you have many "mini-events" like "enemy bloodied" and "enemy killed" and also events like "oh my god, they are all hitting the wizard this round, do something!". If there is no terrain to exploit, maneuvering makes no difference, then longer combats get "grindy". It's important for a combat to allow for making meaningful decisions. If you are down to your at-will powers and everyone has every enemy flanked, there isn't much decision-making necessary, or it at least doesn't have a meaningful impact. [/QUOTE]

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