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<blockquote data-quote="Roger" data-source="post: 5115708" data-attributes="member: 17420">In a different context, Sid Meier defined a game as &quot; series of interesting choices.&quot;&nbsp; I'm inclined to think that grind occurs when:1.&nbsp; The players are not making choices, or2.&nbsp; The players are making choices but they're not interesting.So the classic grind situation is &quot;For the 17th round in a row, I stand there and swing my sword.&quot;(I'm playing a bit loose here with &quot;the players&quot;; I'm not entirely sure how to resolve the situation when 1 player is grinding but all the rest are not, or when every player but 1 is grinding, and everything in between.&nbsp; So forgive me.)Approaching it from this angle avoids things such as duration, hit frequency, etc, as considerations on a primary level.&nbsp; I think they're generally subsumed in the &quot;interesting&quot; part, but I'm not absolutely sure about that.I'll get to &quot;what causes it?&quot; in a little while, to give everyone a chance to address this definition (or description) if they like.Cheers,Roger</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Roger, post: 5115708, member: 17420"] In a different context, Sid Meier defined a game as " series of interesting choices." I'm inclined to think that grind occurs when: 1. The players are not making choices, or 2. The players are making choices but they're not interesting. So the classic grind situation is "For the 17th round in a row, I stand there and swing my sword." (I'm playing a bit loose here with "the players"; I'm not entirely sure how to resolve the situation when 1 player is grinding but all the rest are not, or when every player but 1 is grinding, and everything in between. So forgive me.) Approaching it from this angle avoids things such as duration, hit frequency, etc, as considerations on a primary level. I think they're generally subsumed in the "interesting" part, but I'm not absolutely sure about that. I'll get to "what causes it?" in a little while, to give everyone a chance to address this definition (or description) if they like. Cheers, Roger [/QUOTE]

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