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<blockquote data-quote="Cbas_10" data-source="post: 3970502" data-attributes="member: 55767">Well, to clarify, I am not worried about avoiding hack-and-slash...I am worried about being stuck with only being able to play hack-and-slash.&nbsp; As far as why I am concerned about this...one good example is the issue of roles.&nbsp; Recently I started a thread with more clarification of &quot;Roles&quot;, their importance, and their function.&nbsp; This seems to be a good answer to my question:The roles, functions of roles, where classes fall in this, and so many related concepts fall in the end....to how things work in combat.&nbsp; Nothing else is mentioned.&nbsp; Just combat.&nbsp; I know combat is part of D&amp;D; how can heroic characters defeat the evil beast and save the day without combat?&nbsp; No problem; we need good rules, there.But...to a number of us, there is more to D&amp;D than just &quot;fight, fight, fight, LOOT.&quot;&nbsp; I'm not jumping to conclusions and assuming that 4E will be such a 2-dimensional game...but......Where is the rest of the game?&nbsp; Why not let hints of non-combat stuff out to the blogs and message boards?&nbsp; Are the developers being tight-lipped for some uber-secret reason, or....*gasp*....is there nothing to be secretive about?As far as how this relates to the original post and discussion, I think many of the &quot;problems&quot; cited by Imaro as theoretical reasons for the changes to classes and rules were, in my opinion, actually great to have in the game.&nbsp; When a character's usual schtick wouldn't cut it, it was time to improvise, think, and overcome challenges in new ways.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cbas_10, post: 3970502, member: 55767"] Well, to clarify, I am not worried about avoiding hack-and-slash...I am worried about being stuck with [i]only[/i] being able to play hack-and-slash. As far as why I am concerned about this...one good example is the issue of roles. Recently I started a thread with more clarification of "Roles", their importance, and their function. This seems to be a good answer to my question: The roles, functions of roles, where classes fall in this, and so many related concepts fall in the end....to how things work in combat. Nothing else is mentioned. Just combat. I know combat is part of D&D; how can heroic characters defeat the evil beast and save the day without combat? No problem; we need good rules, there. But...to a number of us, there is more to D&D than just "fight, fight, fight, LOOT." I'm not jumping to conclusions and assuming that 4E will be such a 2-dimensional game...but... ...Where is the rest of the game? Why not let hints of non-combat stuff out to the blogs and message boards? Are the developers being tight-lipped for some uber-secret reason, or....*gasp*....is there nothing to be secretive about? As far as how this relates to the original post and discussion, I think many of the "problems" cited by Imaro as theoretical reasons for the changes to classes and rules were, in my opinion, actually great to have in the game. When a character's usual schtick wouldn't cut it, it was time to improvise, think, and overcome challenges in new ways. [/QUOTE]

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