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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 3971308" data-attributes="member: 710">I think the bonuses will always be useful - at some point, they might get channeled into power attack or combat expertise, but they are useful all the way. The real problem is that your d6 HD and bad AC and the lack of Evasion will make working at the front-lines too dangerous at higher levels. There's a point where you have to switch to use magic devices and hope your spells can make a difference.Ah, but this is leading a bit off-topic. One problem of the Bard is that even while he is useful, many other character classes will turn out more effective than the help he provides. Which is mainly a balance/development issue. Whether you like playing a supporter or not is not really a design issue. It is a issue if the support you can grant is not part of your character class, but purely there because you provide an additional character. That's the issue I have with Rogues vs. Undead/Unsneakables - the support you bring to bear is not part of your unique abilities, it's something everyone could do (possible even a 1st level Commoner!). That's okay occassionally, but not as a general rule in common situations.</blockquote>