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Message: <blockquote data-quote="small pumpkin man" data-source="post: 3974933" data-attributes="member: 57910">It's there, I don't know why you haven't seen it, more dynamic social rules, a new skill system designed with the same "everyone can participate" ethos, an XP system with concrete rules for goal attainment rewards as opposed to just killing monsters, siloing of abilities so that all classes and all characters will have out of combat abilities, not to mention that their including PoL to help new GM's create their very own homebrew world, it's all been shown.Considering the rules of the game have always been mostly about combat, with out of combat and social rules essentially tacked on, I don't see how you can argue that 4e will be more hack and slash orientated.In regards to the OP I'd like to say that as a relatively experienced player, no, I don't really see those as problems, because I'm perfectly capable of working around the system when creating characters so that they don't have those problems, however when starting out, yes, I had problems with some of those things, and I have seen other less experienced players have problems where they've created a character, gotten ready to go, and then gone, "I don't get to be a Hero today? I have to wait? oh, okay...", I think this is a serious roadblock in the designers stated goal of making the game easier to get into.I'd also like to point out that many of these problems become more obvious, or at least more important to me when I started GMing, and was required, again to "work against the system" when creating encounters, to make sure there aren't too many undead for example, because even though the rogue player's actually shown himself to be quite capable of affecting the outcome of combat even without sneak attack, it still feels like I'm picking on him when I say "your major combat power is useless against this guy", not to mention that the characters are starting to get get to mid levels, and my "explore, talk, puzzle, one combat" style is starting favor the Wizard too much, which I wouldn't have to deal with in 4e or SW SE.</blockquote>

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