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<blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 7957203" data-attributes="member: 63508">To me, the noble really feels like a missing archetype of D&amp;D. There is no good was to play an adventuring child of a noble or king whose increased wealth provides them with better training.The 3e fighter lacked the knowledge and conversation skills a noble should have.The 3e rogue gave you that but it added the criminal and backflippy elements.It would be cool to have a noble or aristocratic class that gives you the bard's speech, the rogue's knowledge, and the fighter's skill with light arms.4e helps as you could play a warlord and focus on the buffs and heals. But it forces you into a heavy and sticks you in the frontline in combat. Plus it doesn't really give you the option of an magical twist as the magic classes are very magical.5e lets you give speech sills to your fighter but you are a super warrior. It's almost there but It misses the expertise. You can kludge one together as a fighter/rogue/bard but it is ugly. It would be geet to havethe option of light amror, simple weapons, a choice of the Int, Wis, Cha skills, bonus languages, and a choice of &quot;tutors&quot; that give you bonus weapon, item, armor, and tool profiecency or a few spells.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Minigiant, post: 7957203, member: 63508"] To me, the noble really feels like a missing archetype of D&D. There is no good was to play an adventuring child of a noble or king whose increased wealth provides them with better training. The [U]3e[/U] fighter lacked the knowledge and conversation skills a noble should have. The [U]3e[/U] rogue gave you that but it added the criminal and backflippy elements. It would be cool to have a noble or aristocratic class that gives you the bard's speech, the rogue's knowledge, and the fighter's skill with light arms. [U]4e[/U] helps as you could play a warlord and focus on the buffs and heals. But it forces you into a heavy and sticks you in the frontline in combat. Plus it doesn't really give you the option of an magical twist as the magic classes are very magical. [U]5e[/U] lets you give speech sills to your fighter but you are a super warrior. It's almost there but It misses the expertise. You can kludge one together as a fighter/rogue/bard but it is ugly. It would be geet to havethe option of light amror, simple weapons, a choice of the Int, Wis, Cha skills, bonus languages, and a choice of "tutors" that give you bonus weapon, item, armor, and tool profiecency or a few spells. [/QUOTE]

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