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<blockquote data-quote="PJ Mason" data-source="post: 1317971" data-attributes="member: 11727"><p>I'm not at home right now, so this is probably an incomplete list.</p><p></p><p>All my books from Mongoose</p><p>-Constructs (because it sits on the shelf totally unused- and i use a lot of construct/clockwork stuff!), </p><p>-Battle Magic (More cool ideas, but none of the mechanics or classes quite fit the bill for me)</p><p>-Highthrone (this one least of all, it had some cool ideas)</p><p>-Stonebridge (worst of the bunch by far and it was my "Ok, you guys get one more chance outta me!" moment. not good)</p><p></p><p>FFG</p><p>-Midnight - High quality writing and game mechanics, miserable quality book. Yes i KNOW they will replace it. FFG sent me a new book, which promptly fell apart. twice is enough for me, thanks. There other books didn't wow me either. Although their Horizon line shows real promise. Redline was great and their new Characters-as-computer programs (ala Matrix) looks very interesting.</p><p></p><p>WOTC</p><p>-I didn't get all the old splatbooks (whew), but i did get S&F, the magic one, and the divine one. I thought the divine one was the most interesting, but i would definitely not get them if "i knew now" what i know. </p><p>-Star Wars - if i had known the book was going to be so buggy and that they would come out with a much better one like, maybe a less than a year later?, then i wouldn't have bought the first one and i wouldn't still be as pissed as i still am about the whole deal. I didn't buy the new one (F that! You guys complain about 3.5 coming after what, three years? sheesh) and after seeing all the new slew of tiny but much overpriced supplements for the line, i think it was for the best!</p><p></p><p>Others</p><p>-Artificer Handbook. If you don't like their altenate item creation system, this book is a total loss. I didn't care for it, so it was wasted money for me.</p><p>-Diamond Throne setting book & Siege on Ebonring- After the wonderful Arcana Unearthed, who would have thought that these would be such a huge bore?</p><p>-Scarred Lands books (I had about 7 of them). They were all pretty good reading, but the game mechanics were all questionable or just cracked (imho. Thats reason #1 why i didn't like the books and got rid of most of them). Also, by the time all the books came out, i had already created my own versions of the cities and societies in the setting for my campaigns (do you Iron Kingdom guys hear this!!!), so the books really only became mechanic sourcebooks for me - so see reason #1. I still got the Relics & Rituals (a total game mechanics crapshoot, but a friend of my is obsessed with the setting so i keep it around. The spell histories are pretty good and fun to read) and Divine & Defeated was a really well written book and i still like to read it ocassionally. I also liked their divine powers rule set. Great book, but only one in a pack.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, thats all i can think about for the moment. This is a fairly small portion of my D20 collection, as i can usually find something worth while in anything. I've found that while good mechanics don't mean i'll automatically buy a book, bad mechanics will mean that i will avoid or lambast one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PJ Mason, post: 1317971, member: 11727"] I'm not at home right now, so this is probably an incomplete list. All my books from Mongoose -Constructs (because it sits on the shelf totally unused- and i use a lot of construct/clockwork stuff!), -Battle Magic (More cool ideas, but none of the mechanics or classes quite fit the bill for me) -Highthrone (this one least of all, it had some cool ideas) -Stonebridge (worst of the bunch by far and it was my "Ok, you guys get one more chance outta me!" moment. not good) FFG -Midnight - High quality writing and game mechanics, miserable quality book. Yes i KNOW they will replace it. FFG sent me a new book, which promptly fell apart. twice is enough for me, thanks. There other books didn't wow me either. Although their Horizon line shows real promise. Redline was great and their new Characters-as-computer programs (ala Matrix) looks very interesting. WOTC -I didn't get all the old splatbooks (whew), but i did get S&F, the magic one, and the divine one. I thought the divine one was the most interesting, but i would definitely not get them if "i knew now" what i know. -Star Wars - if i had known the book was going to be so buggy and that they would come out with a much better one like, maybe a less than a year later?, then i wouldn't have bought the first one and i wouldn't still be as pissed as i still am about the whole deal. I didn't buy the new one (F that! You guys complain about 3.5 coming after what, three years? sheesh) and after seeing all the new slew of tiny but much overpriced supplements for the line, i think it was for the best! Others -Artificer Handbook. If you don't like their altenate item creation system, this book is a total loss. I didn't care for it, so it was wasted money for me. -Diamond Throne setting book & Siege on Ebonring- After the wonderful Arcana Unearthed, who would have thought that these would be such a huge bore? -Scarred Lands books (I had about 7 of them). They were all pretty good reading, but the game mechanics were all questionable or just cracked (imho. Thats reason #1 why i didn't like the books and got rid of most of them). Also, by the time all the books came out, i had already created my own versions of the cities and societies in the setting for my campaigns (do you Iron Kingdom guys hear this!!!), so the books really only became mechanic sourcebooks for me - so see reason #1. I still got the Relics & Rituals (a total game mechanics crapshoot, but a friend of my is obsessed with the setting so i keep it around. The spell histories are pretty good and fun to read) and Divine & Defeated was a really well written book and i still like to read it ocassionally. I also liked their divine powers rule set. Great book, but only one in a pack. Anyway, thats all i can think about for the moment. This is a fairly small portion of my D20 collection, as i can usually find something worth while in anything. I've found that while good mechanics don't mean i'll automatically buy a book, bad mechanics will mean that i will avoid or lambast one. [/QUOTE]
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