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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nightfall" data-source="post: 1318573" data-attributes="member: 374">Right...and if you believe that one I have swamp lands in Florida to sell you to that is FILLED with gold bullion.  Look I won't argue about Faithful and Forsaken. It's wasn't great yes, but I still ranked it HIGHER than Penumbral Pentagon. That is the ONLY SL book I've EVER regreted getting. No consistency to the group, a lot of trouble figuring out any sense of connecting existing products mentions with current ones. That's not even including a much needed revision of Penumbral Lord. I will say though your reaction Trick is what I expect at times. If it isn't godlike perfect in some respects, it's not good.  But come on. Relics and Rituals 1 might have a few flaws but it's still a great book for paladins, rangers, druids and even clerics. Same with R&R2 (though I'll grant you the mix bag worth of spells was bad in some levels. But spells like Beetle Swarm, Austialian Scream, Essential Blade, etc, were by far some of the more innovative spells to come on in a d20 product in a while.)  I won't ask people to forgive my ire here. I get enough of it else where. So what I will say is grow up people. If you can design better books in the time alotted AND STILL manage a personal life, then do so. Step up and put your money where your mouth is. My point is S&SS might have ups and down but what REALLY sickens me is the amount of bashing I see on mechanics just because people THINK they can do better. I congradulate the freelancers, the authors and the developers, not just of WW, S&SS  and it affiliates but ALL d20 products who put their necks out there than try some time. Until I see that from others, I just say keep quiet.</blockquote>

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