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<blockquote data-quote="CRGreathouse" data-source="post: 1319435" data-attributes="member: 474">To prove I'm not entirely heartless, here are some much-maligned books I enjoyed:The Epic Level Handbook allows me to keep playing even though my group's high level.&nbsp; No one's above level 20 in the party, but monsters and major NPCs are.&nbsp; For example, the Lord High Preist of the church of Pelor (who the cleric PC has met twice) is 23rd level.&nbsp; The monsters they fight, generally in Hell (long story), are either from the ELH directly or based on ELH mechanics.Deities and Demigods is useful when your gods can be killed and, in fact, kill each other with suprising regularity -- at least on their time scale, if not on a mortal time scale.&nbsp; Qantifying their power in relation to one another is important to me, even if the PCs coudn't ever face even a demigod in combat.&nbsp; (In time, though, perhaps they will; they've angered a certain demigod.&nbsp; They may ask protection from another god, or just keep low profiles...)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CRGreathouse, post: 1319435, member: 474"] To prove I'm not entirely heartless, here are some much-maligned books I enjoyed: The Epic Level Handbook allows me to keep playing even though my group's high level. No one's above level 20 in the party, but monsters and major NPCs are. For example, the Lord High Preist of the church of Pelor (who the cleric PC has met twice) is 23rd level. The monsters they fight, generally in Hell (long story), are either from the ELH directly or based on ELH mechanics. Deities and Demigods is useful when your gods can be killed and, in fact, kill each other with suprising regularity -- at least on their time scale, if not on a mortal time scale. Qantifying their power in relation to one another is important to me, even if the PCs coudn't ever face even a demigod in combat. (In time, though, perhaps they will; they've angered a certain demigod. They may ask protection from another god, or just keep low profiles...) [/QUOTE]

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