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<blockquote data-quote="eryndel" data-source="post: 1405929" data-attributes="member: 13120"><p>Okay, all the bad blood towards S&SS seems sort of surprising. I'm not sure if it's really fair to judge real early 3.0 products (like R&R) where even WOTC wasn't sure where the balance was (look at the splat books or FRCS) to the stuff of today now that we're used to this d20 thing.</p><p></p><p>In addition, as a note to people trying to make opinions on what to buy... read the reviews and don't use this thread. We've got some great reviewers spending there time giving a detailed analysis of the hits and misses of a product. This thread just lists personal tastes. Case in point, I really didn't like the <strong>Starfarers Handbook</strong>. I felt that the admixture of space and fantasy handled the way the developers did it just didn't suspend my disbelief and I consider myself both a big space and fantasy junkie. What does that mean to someone who wants to buy it? Absolutely zilch. You want to buy it, go ahead and read the many good reviews on it, and decide it it's your cup of tea. Same with <strong>Relics and Rituals</strong>, don't let us naysayers stop you.</p><p></p><p>So, on to my list of regrets. I refuse to list the stuff that is gathering dust because I'm not really running any games right now so I'd have to list my entire collection. That and I enjoy owning most of my collection just because I think they are well written and are interesting even if I don't get a chance to use them. But, I have a few regrets:</p><p></p><p>I'll throw my hat in with the <strong>Monsters of Faerun </strong> crowd. It might be a little unfair, but my bad feeling came solely from the price tag, but that was just after picking up all the core books for the $20 introductory price. </p><p></p><p><strong>Starfarer's Handbook</strong> for all the reasons I listed.</p><p></p><p><strong>Sovereign Stone</strong>: Picked this up as a whim from Dragon*Con. Except for the spell system, I have a hard time finding anything redeeming.</p><p></p><p>That's about it. <strong>Dragonlance </strong> was disappointing for me, but I don't regret picking it up. IMO <strong>Complete Warrior </strong> wasn't worth the sticker price unless you get it for 60% off at Amazon. I enjoy just about all of my FR collection (with perhaps the exception of Faiths and Pantheons). </p><p></p><p>Must haves would include: </p><p>The Player's Guide Series from S&SS: More than just feats and prestige classes, I love how they set up organizations and I'm using them to model the FR proto-campaign I'm planning right now.</p><p><strong>Unearthed Arcana</strong>: This books makes me all kind of happy</p><p><strong>Races of Faerun </strong> and <strong>Underdark</strong>.</p><p>I'd give a nod to <strong>Relics and Rituals </strong> and <strong>Creature Collection Revised</strong>. I personally enjoyed the tone of the creatures from the original CC more than CCII (and I haven't seen CCIII), and revised just made them all better.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thank you, this just made my day. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>Werner</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eryndel, post: 1405929, member: 13120"] Okay, all the bad blood towards S&SS seems sort of surprising. I'm not sure if it's really fair to judge real early 3.0 products (like R&R) where even WOTC wasn't sure where the balance was (look at the splat books or FRCS) to the stuff of today now that we're used to this d20 thing. In addition, as a note to people trying to make opinions on what to buy... read the reviews and don't use this thread. We've got some great reviewers spending there time giving a detailed analysis of the hits and misses of a product. This thread just lists personal tastes. Case in point, I really didn't like the [B]Starfarers Handbook[/B]. I felt that the admixture of space and fantasy handled the way the developers did it just didn't suspend my disbelief and I consider myself both a big space and fantasy junkie. What does that mean to someone who wants to buy it? Absolutely zilch. You want to buy it, go ahead and read the many good reviews on it, and decide it it's your cup of tea. Same with [B]Relics and Rituals[/B], don't let us naysayers stop you. So, on to my list of regrets. I refuse to list the stuff that is gathering dust because I'm not really running any games right now so I'd have to list my entire collection. That and I enjoy owning most of my collection just because I think they are well written and are interesting even if I don't get a chance to use them. But, I have a few regrets: I'll throw my hat in with the [B]Monsters of Faerun [/B] crowd. It might be a little unfair, but my bad feeling came solely from the price tag, but that was just after picking up all the core books for the $20 introductory price. [B]Starfarer's Handbook[/B] for all the reasons I listed. [B]Sovereign Stone[/B]: Picked this up as a whim from Dragon*Con. Except for the spell system, I have a hard time finding anything redeeming. That's about it. [B]Dragonlance [/B] was disappointing for me, but I don't regret picking it up. IMO [B]Complete Warrior [/B] wasn't worth the sticker price unless you get it for 60% off at Amazon. I enjoy just about all of my FR collection (with perhaps the exception of Faiths and Pantheons). Must haves would include: The Player's Guide Series from S&SS: More than just feats and prestige classes, I love how they set up organizations and I'm using them to model the FR proto-campaign I'm planning right now. [B]Unearthed Arcana[/B]: This books makes me all kind of happy [B]Races of Faerun [/B] and [B]Underdark[/B]. I'd give a nod to [B]Relics and Rituals [/B] and [B]Creature Collection Revised[/B]. I personally enjoyed the tone of the creatures from the original CC more than CCII (and I haven't seen CCIII), and revised just made them all better. Thank you, this just made my day. :D Werner [/QUOTE]
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