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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 9172139" data-attributes="member: 7026617">The particular problem with these was that they were stretch goal bonuses.  Not everyone is quick with those--it took a long time for all the ones for Part Time Gods 2e to come out, but when they did they were substantial.  Not so much these, and one of them never came out at all (the Shipyard book).Basically, while the people who tore into them were excessive about it (there were a lot of accusations of fraud and such that there's no sign is true), people had reasonable cause to be grumpy about it.  Which is too bad; I still think the core design was pretty sound.</blockquote>