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<blockquote data-quote="nogray" data-source="post: 5942297" data-attributes="member: 28028">Just to be persnickety, you don't have to give up the power. You can always opt to not upgrade it. My wife's 4e Paladin of the Raven Queen will be keeping the first level Frost of Letherna power until the end of her career, because it does just exactly what she wants. That is, unless I (as DM) work with her to create an upgraded version of the power.(As an aside, I hate the concept of &quot;orphan powers.&quot; That is, powers at a low level that don't have clear upgrades at higher levels. The Wizard I'm playing in another campaign loves his Lightning Bolt encounter power, but I'm really looking forward to the upgrade to Chain Lightning. What's more, Chain Lightning is appropriately places so that (if you are keeping all your powers at their highest level) you replace the lower with the pure upgraded version. It's how all the low-level encounter and dailies should have been designed. At least, that's my take on things.)To keep an old power in either of WotC's character builders without having the &quot;reminder&quot; to pick something, just select the power that you want to keep as both the power that you are discarding and the power that you are picking up (though you may need to have the program show you those additional low-level options). I think one of the character files for an example Avenger would look like this: L13 Encounter: Angelic Alacrity (replaces Angelic Alacrity).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="nogray, post: 5942297, member: 28028"] Just to be persnickety, you don't have to give up the power. You can always opt to not upgrade it. My wife's 4e Paladin of the Raven Queen will be keeping the first level Frost of Letherna power until the end of her career, because it does just exactly what she wants. That is, unless I (as DM) work with her to create an upgraded version of the power. (As an aside, I hate the concept of "orphan powers." That is, powers at a low level that don't have clear upgrades at higher levels. The Wizard I'm playing in another campaign loves his Lightning Bolt encounter power, but I'm really looking forward to the upgrade to Chain Lightning. What's more, Chain Lightning is appropriately places so that (if you are keeping all your powers at their highest level) you replace the lower with the pure upgraded version. It's how all the low-level encounter and dailies should have been designed. At least, that's my take on things.) To keep an old power in either of WotC's character builders without having the "reminder" to pick something, just select the power that you want to keep as both the power that you are discarding and the power that you are picking up (though you may need to have the program show you those additional low-level options). I think one of the character files for an example Avenger would look like this: L13 Encounter: Angelic Alacrity (replaces Angelic Alacrity). [/QUOTE]

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