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What defines the "edition war" and why are participants / moderators opposed to them?
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<blockquote data-quote="Paradox" data-source="post: 5080698" data-attributes="member: 2875"><p>At the risk of turning the thread into one about me, I certainly didn't assign motives to people I don't agree with. I suppose I could say "That person that's reporting every post by someone who doesn't like 4e, including posts 6 months old; including posts in threads that have been closed, including posts that have nothing to do with D&D is NOT a jerk" if you want, but IMO, that is jerky behavior.</p><p></p><p>As a moderator, it's not my job to take sides, only enforce the rules. Trolling is against the rules. The person doing the trolling thinks it's fun, but most people don't like to be trolled. </p><p></p><p>Geeze, I didn't even give my opinion of 4e and I already earned the label "Biggest 4e supporter" just because I closed threads that were nothing more than "4e sux". There is a difference between statements like "4e = WoW" and "I don't like the tiered system of gaining a paragon path as I prefer getting a prestige class once I qualify it; most times it's by level 5." The former is just trying to get a rise out of the community. The latter is a valid reason and something that can be discussed. A flame war is not a discussion, just people yelling at each other.</p><p></p><p>I don't have to agree with someone to value their opinion, and I'm sure most community members are the same. Case in point- I don't have every rule memorized. People that don't like an edition will point out every flaw there is and basically, work out the flaws for me. Assuming they give the game a chance and not just repeat what they read online.</p><p></p><p>Speaking of repeating, there are many of us who have played D&D for a very long time. We've been through edition changes before. And we've seen the very same exact arguments and fights each time. If I didn't know better, I'd swear people were just bumping threads when 3e first came out.</p><p></p><p>While "edition wars" may seem new to newer players, those of us that have been through it before are just sick of the cyclic fighting that never seems to end. The fights are with people you will never play in a D&D game with, so it doesn't matter which edition they like best. It's pointless to try to force them, and everyone to play Your One True Way.</p><p> </p><p>I had problems with OD&D, but the games were still fun.</p><p>I had problems with AD&D 1st edition, but the games were still fun.</p><p>I had problems with 2nd edition, but the games were still fun.</p><p>I had problems with 3rd edition, but the games were still fun.</p><p>I'm still working on 4th edition, so I'm not sure what problems I'll come across, but in the meantime, the games are still fun.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Paradox, post: 5080698, member: 2875"] At the risk of turning the thread into one about me, I certainly didn't assign motives to people I don't agree with. I suppose I could say "That person that's reporting every post by someone who doesn't like 4e, including posts 6 months old; including posts in threads that have been closed, including posts that have nothing to do with D&D is NOT a jerk" if you want, but IMO, that is jerky behavior. As a moderator, it's not my job to take sides, only enforce the rules. Trolling is against the rules. The person doing the trolling thinks it's fun, but most people don't like to be trolled. Geeze, I didn't even give my opinion of 4e and I already earned the label "Biggest 4e supporter" just because I closed threads that were nothing more than "4e sux". There is a difference between statements like "4e = WoW" and "I don't like the tiered system of gaining a paragon path as I prefer getting a prestige class once I qualify it; most times it's by level 5." The former is just trying to get a rise out of the community. The latter is a valid reason and something that can be discussed. A flame war is not a discussion, just people yelling at each other. I don't have to agree with someone to value their opinion, and I'm sure most community members are the same. Case in point- I don't have every rule memorized. People that don't like an edition will point out every flaw there is and basically, work out the flaws for me. Assuming they give the game a chance and not just repeat what they read online. Speaking of repeating, there are many of us who have played D&D for a very long time. We've been through edition changes before. And we've seen the very same exact arguments and fights each time. If I didn't know better, I'd swear people were just bumping threads when 3e first came out. While "edition wars" may seem new to newer players, those of us that have been through it before are just sick of the cyclic fighting that never seems to end. The fights are with people you will never play in a D&D game with, so it doesn't matter which edition they like best. It's pointless to try to force them, and everyone to play Your One True Way. I had problems with OD&D, but the games were still fun. I had problems with AD&D 1st edition, but the games were still fun. I had problems with 2nd edition, but the games were still fun. I had problems with 3rd edition, but the games were still fun. I'm still working on 4th edition, so I'm not sure what problems I'll come across, but in the meantime, the games are still fun. [/QUOTE]
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